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[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Elon Musk is a foreigner that is directly causing our current problems.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The US has been the most evil country on earth long before musk arrived.

[–] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

No argument there.

[–] GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I would argue that the British Empire and Belgium were pretty fucking evil long before the US came into existence.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After WW2 most of the worlds imperialism, death and destruction and theft has shifted. The main perpetrator went from being Europe to the US. With Europe remaining complicit of course.

[–] GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

That's a fair point. The US empire expanded tremendously after all the war profiteering from WW2, which allowed for the evil that we see today.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

The US is like a franchise of that nightmare though.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Elon Musk is a foreigner

No, he's an American citizen. Or are American liberals full 'blood and soil' now?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Rightwingers don't usually care about whether immigrants have citizenship or not.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah, including right wing blueMAGA liberals

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

Wym "now"? Lmao

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[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s those fucking illegals who came over on the mayflower that caused this

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

had the native american's been smart enough to build a wall across the ocean... none of this mess would have happened.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Powhatan should have 💀 them as they came ashore. That’s one thing I would fix with a time machine.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] dan69@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I frequent the “…thanks a lot Obama.”

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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Mfw the country is founded by foreigners who didn’t like the other foreigners

[–] JVT038@feddit.nl 22 points 1 month ago

Lots of populist European parties are doing the same and are actually gaining votes by blaming everything on the immigrants.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago

They don't even try.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 month ago

The only wrong part of this meme is the implication that burgers would even try to not blame foreign meddling.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I’ll start. Go home white people! Go back to where you came from!

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

I second this ~a 13th great grandchild of Powhatan.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd love to live in Denmark, that's where most of my heritage comes from.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe I should go to Poland. That's the largest contiguous plurality of my background...

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm Danish, follow your heritage and come back, it's pretty great here

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[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's also a problem in europe

Edit: people blaming immigrants, that is, not immigration itself

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

and blaming communism, despite the fact that there's no communism to be found in Europe

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

To be fair, anything, literally anything, that Nigel Farage says, can and should be dismissed as nonsense. If he would say the sky is blue, dismiss it. If you want to know the color of the sky, you can find a better source of information.

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[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No you don't understand, it wasn't 80 years of fascist power consolidation and continual capitalist cannibalization since the 70s, It is all Putin manipulating social media causing the material conditions in the Global North. One thing is for sure, no one wrote a book in the nineteenth century describing this exactly.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You don't understand, the U.S. was sold to Russia in 2016, then it was reclaimed and thanklessly saved by our harm-reduction, lesser-evilism enjoyer (very wholesome), then it was hopelessly sold back again to Russia just recently..

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

One in particular from. South Africa

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not like most european countries are in a good position to justifiably point fingers here ...

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The author Domenico Losurdo uses the term mutual demystification a lot, especially in Liberalism - a counter history. When two parties accuse each other of being hypocrites, it often ends up showing that they both are.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd like to point out that I'm european, not american - this is the opposite of calling each other hypocrites.

[–] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When people are not brain dead by media, both in the US and EU we know all of our problems comes from our own government and fat CEOs.

Foreigners are just one of the many scapegoats they put the blame on.

What it reminds me of is Greeks and then Romans calling them barbarian, from barbar meaning foreigners. This isn't new...

The problem always was power and the unfit nature of human beings to possess it.

[–] dawnglider@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I wouldn't expect anyone to deny the existence of corruption or abuse of power, but I think the corrupting influence of power is often used to justify in retrospect the acts of people put into power to do exactly that. It might sound pedantic to say that CEOs or state officials aren't really "corrupt", because they rarely ever intend to represent the interests of the workforce or population, but really it's a total inversion of causality. They don't "betray" because they got in power, they got in power to "betray".

On an interesting sidenote, it also goes against the common misconception that any form of authority ultimately leads to corruption, since those same CEOs and officials seem to stay pretty loyal.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago

Capitalism and First-past-the-post voting.

Capitalists hate competition.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s not necessarily foreigners, but rather billionaires that are the problem. They bought off and corrupted government officials long ago, and directed them to perform heinous acts to line their pockets further. The rich have got to be stopped in order for things to get better. I’d prefer to simply tax them out of existence, but there are other means available…

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US was founded on slavery and genocide / conquest of hundreds of indigenous nations. It's rotten to the core.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, and many of those founders were rich businessmen who didn’t want to pay taxes to the king of England. This is a human problem, not a national one.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

George washington, franklin, jefferson, madison, all the founders were slave-owning colonizers who explicitly modelled their country after ancient Rome.

It's not a human problem, these were specifically evil people who did not share the same values as the people they murdered and enslaved.

Most countries were not founded in this way.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, and many of those founders were rich businessmen who didn’t want to pay taxes to the king of England.

They were pissy that the king made it illegal to expand westward and exterminate all of the indigenous people. They were all "no, actually, the British Empire isn't evil enough. Let's make an even bigger and eviller empire than the [at the time] most evil empire on Earth."

This is a human problem, not a national one.

It is a national and class problem, not a human one. Human nature is a bs concept invented to sell the status quo.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

its an anglo nature problem for sure

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 1 month ago

It's not like Musk was elected.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

He looks like he's taking a shit

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