No Stupid Questions

They're looking for yes-men, who will be loyal to them in even the worst possible situations. Heiling is just a test to weed out anyone else.

Also, the heiling gesture came a little too natural to them.

They want people to feel like rebels with a cause.

This is a good symbol to make a lot of people your enemies. Your ingroup can now rally against "the establishment".

It couldn't work before, because it made too many enemies for your small ingroup, but we've reached a tipping point where it is feasible to keep a thing going for a while.

There have always been Nazis in America, even during WW2. Listen to Rachel Maddow's podcast "ultra" to hear about how close they came to a takeover of the US way back then. They never went away, they just went low profile for a while.

It came from LIBERALS who demanded that we protect the free speech of Nazis while they were building their death camps.

They feel safe, that's why they salute now.

It begins by realizing that economics is also politics. The US ran out of indigenous peoples and lands to exploit, so it is turning inwards.

There are many books one could recommend. But an easy one to understand is: Irregular Army: How the US Military Recruited Neo-Nazis, Gang Members, and Criminals to Fight the War on Terror, this book was published in 2012. Whatever an empire perfects to crush other people, always sooner or later is used internally.

if you think the right wing being filled with nazi is a new phenomenon, I've got a bridge to sell you

But Seig Heils? Even the most dense among them must know that blatant Nazism hurts their legitimacy in the eyes of the public, even among MAGATs

"hE wAs jUSt joKING 😡😡😡" -every magat ever

They were always Nazis. The more mainstream-seeming "alt-right" guys were just suit Nazis. They feel more comfortable coming out in the open now, even if it's still a bit draped in "doing it for lulz" deniability. I'm skeptical that they're fully aware that it'll hurt their legitimacy. They're dug in like ticks in their echo chamber, are constantly goading each into being more openly extreme, and celebrate the push back there.

It's so weird to me that it's ketamine, incidentally. Like, maybe I'd understand it more if Musk was heavy into cocaine, but the biggest ket users I know basically just drop off the grid, wear the same cardigan for a year straight and boof crystals in their van with their polycule... Not this Nazi shit. It's so weird.

I think, at least for those in their ranks who are not (yet) convinced Nazis anyway, it's a similar principle to the mafia: the newly recruited opportunists have to publicly spout Nazi slogans to prove themselves - just as a soldier in the Cosa Nostra has to have committed a serious crime, many particularly serious ones, if he ever wants to become a "capo".

Like other criminal organizations, MAGA tries to protect itself from potential informants, I think. If you only recruit people who are unscrupulous enough to openly admit to this Nazi bullshit, there's less chance of someone having a conscience and making all their shady dealings public.

it's that first thing you said.

I think you’re starting with the position that Naziism is a poisonous nonstarter, and wondering why anyone would attach themselves to that.

But that’s not where they are starting from. I earnestly believe that some major revisionism is happening. People are taking another look at the Nazis and finding they like what they see.

Of course, it’s falling into the whole complex of “Nazis aren’t so bad - you were just told that by your woke liberal school propaganda.”

As liberals cry out about the Nazi shit, Trumpers delight in their pain, further adding to the magnetism of Naziism.

And of course there is a slice of the Right that have always been literal Nazis, explicitly. And that slice is larger than ever, with looser boundaries than before.

Basically the divisive politics of the US have finally become big enough to be bigger than our feelings about Naziism. That’s really fucking big. But the political civil war we’re in the middle of is all about tearing down everything that came before as tired, corrupt lies. I guess that is includes simple basics like “Nazis are bad.”

If you’re still confused and disgusted and horrified, you are in a lot of very good company.

Someone that bought his place at the white house did it and didn't get shot by a flamethrower, so all the Nazis hiding literally just below the surface feel ok to talk a little louder now.

Honestly, with sufficient evidence it should be legal to kill them in public and receive any inheritance from their wills. I don't typically enjoy personally hunting people down typically, but these aren't people.

One comment blatantly in favor of it Goodies any human rights in my opinion. It's the only way. They may say it too (vermin, poisoning the blood, etc) but they've only ever been right about themselves.

I would give a pedo human rights before them. And that's saying something.

They're just rabid animals, and I defy anyone to give a reason they deserve a single second of life at all, for any reason, in any context. Maybe with the one exception of using them to find gatherings of others. But that's it.

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