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[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 66 points 3 weeks ago (17 children)

Trump is 100% a Russian asset, wild to see that after it was blatantly obvious the first go around we were like "yeah let's out a Russian spy back in the white house."

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Half the country have always been aware of it, but are powerless to stop it, the other half either voted for him because of it- or are in complete denial that it’s happening- right before their eyes.

The important point isn’t even whether or not he is a Russian asset. He undoubtedly is, but that doesn’t actually matter. All that matters is that he’s acting like a Russian asset. He’s doing all the things a Russian asset would do. Ultimately, whether the orders are actually coming from Putin is irrelevant, because the end result is still the same.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 63 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It wasn’t intentional. Trump followed Putin just as Vance followed Trump. He is just too stupid to have seen how this would play out.

Getting attacked by a foreign leader is such an effective way to rally your people behind you, that governments often fabricate external threats as a way to unify their nation. Putin knew the ways this could play out. The only more desirable result for Putin would’ve been Zelenskyy reluctantly accepting the agreement, but globally discrediting the US was a guarantee.

Putin was a KGB intelligence officer for 16 years before going to work for Yeltsin. The man outsmarts intelligence experts for fun. Trump’s ignorance and ego make him the perfect patsy, and the greedy Republicans in office have fully manifested into spineless yes men that are guaranteed to stay out of his way.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 67 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Putin is not some 4D Chess master. This should be blatantly obvious since 2022. But he does not need to be what you make him out, all he needs to be is a little bit smarter than the orange idiot.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I remember the first time I started to pay attention to geopolitics. It was when George W. Bush was elected president, and it made me freak out a bit. Why would a country like America elect such an obvious idiot to the highest office?

I also remember that Putin in comparison seemed like an intelligent, sensible person, even if tad intimidating.

I'm not sure what my point is except that George W. is a genius compared to Trump.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

It wasn't too long ago, we thought palin is batsht insane and stupid,she still is but ?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Of course. I wasn’t praising him, but comparing his experience in political manipulation to Trump’s. MAGA isn’t any better, taking Putin’s word that he’d “much rather have Biden or Harris in the White House” than Trump.

[–] StoneyPicton@lemmy.ca 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Another big winner here is China. I would love to know the contents of that meeting between putin and xi, I think back in 2022(?)

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It was just this, from both of them:

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[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It wasn't disinformation - it is a pedophile who had minors delivered into his bed and was filmed during the atrocities. The resulting child pornography is what makes orange guy the lap dog of a psychotic killer.

The rest was easy with an asset that high in the ranks.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Could be. It could also just be bribes.

The current situation is really nice for countries like Russia, Saudi-Arabia and China. They just need to pay a few billion to Trump and get stuff that cannot be bought and are easily worth hundreds of billions from the US empire.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It could be either of those things certainly, but I feel like no amount of money Russia could provide would be enough for Trump, he's in control of the United States Treasury and can direct money anywhere with impunity (see also: Starlink). If they came out with a video he'd just call it fake - particularly in this age of AI - and it would have zero effect.

Russians throw people out windows all the time though. I'd be willing to bet that the threat of physical harm is all that is necessary to control him.

Or quite possibly, all three things. Keep us happy and the money keeps flowing, the porn stays in the vault and you won't be unalived.

One thing is certain: it's not nothing.

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[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

Their new crypto grifts really take this to an extreme level. Hundreds of millions just directly given to Trump as bribes now, its actually insane.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And at this point, who cares? Tell the CIA what blackmail Putin has on you. That's what they're there for.

Don't sell out your whole gd country and the world because you're just that desperate to hide your personal crimes.

What a moron.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago

Because once you give into blackmail, that just opens to door to further blackmail. And every single time you give in, it makes it worse and worse. At this point, yeah Trump could get his base to arm wave away him fucking minors. But then he'd have to explain away every thing he's done for them since then, which is just treasonous.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It was mostly disinformation though, if you look at how most of the social media, and MSMs ran, it's mostly talking points from Russia in some form another

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The average American is really, really dumb

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 16 points 3 weeks ago

Yes and the propaganda helped too. The billionaires in the US figured out how to get control of most of the media. It's a master class for the billionaires of the rest of the world. I imagine it won't take long for everyone else to start seeing that kind of propaganda as well.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

really, really dumb

Really, really, >really ~really DUMB.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The president grovels to putin: This is an unprecedented loss of u.s. soft power and the world is judging America for it's cowardice.

The president, congress and every major media organization grovels to netanyahu: ....

This does look bad on our part but the main thing making us look bad on the world stage is our support for Israel. If you ask the average person outside of the west what they find most offensive about this administration they'll probably say its genocidal policy in gaza, not it's shakedown of an ally.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

That’s just not true

Countries threatened by China care a lot more about this than Gaza

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago
[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

Because of one simple reason: "Don't care as long as I get mine's", personified in Trump, fueled by the increasing disdain those that have wealth and power have had for their neighbors such that the don't mind living surrounded by shit because they feel they already are.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You know, I can easily imagine the first part opening a lot of peoples eyes about Trump if they saw it on it's own. Add the second part and they are likely to throw it into the flat-earth bucket of statements.

I really wonder how much of the current situation in the US is because people would rather be smug and gloat over people with different politics then actually try to convince them.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Don't normalize imperialistic ambitions as a way to appeal to fascists. Ukraine should be supported, but not because of the need to maintain the hegemony.

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