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[–] TrippyTortuga@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I can code, but I've never been a moderator. What kind of mod tools do you want?

EDIT: More discussion about mod tools: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3281

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fricking flairs, they're very important in the communities that I'm moderating. With an ability to set multiple flairs at once because on reddit you can set only one which sucks because some posts can fit criteria to get 2 or more flairs.

[–] TrippyTortuga@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've seen this and all related gh issues, but I didn't see anyone working on it yet sadly.

[–] Nerd02@forum.basedcount.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I am working on it! My team and I are working on this issue as we speak (I literally tabbed out of VS Code to answer this) and we plan to roll them out to our modded instance in a matter of days, it's our top priority.

Extending support for this feature to the wider lemmy codebase is not paramount to our roadmap, but we will certainly make a pull request once we are done. If the lemmy devs will like our implementation and decide to adopt it we will definitely be very glad to help them doing so.

EDIT, 10 days after: only now I see that the links was about post flairs, not user flairs. To clarify, I am working on user flair, no idea if and who is working on post flairs.

[–] rokejulianlockhart@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Making draft PRs, even if they don't work yet, might be a good way of demonstrating that you're working on something. Or do you get too much useless feedback when you do?

[–] Nerd02@forum.basedcount.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I never considered doing that, actually. I always felt like PRs where only useful when you actually had something to show, otherwise you are just spamming a project with useless ideas and "what if"s.

But this is also my first time contributing to an open source project. Learning experience.

[–] rokejulianlockhart@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It unfortunately depends much upon the community/person administrating the repository. If I'm worried about that, I tend to just make a post in /Discussion linking to my private fork.

[–] NotBabaYaga@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yea this is really important, and also we need a way to moderate the moderators so we don't end up with the "super" mods we saw on Reddit...

[–] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just contacting admins of your instance would do, they have the ability to remove and appoint new mods.

[–] whiny9130@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

this is called "meta-moderation" and is a good idea @notbabayaga@lemmy.world :) it's part of the Santa Clara Principles of transparent moderation (https://santaclaraprinciples.org/)

[–] rokejulianlockhart@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

That's what democracy is for, right?

[–] animist@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Beehaw admins: there are only four of us moderating everything

Community: so ask people to be ~~admins~~ mods

Beehaw admins: i can't understand a goddamn word you're saying

Edit: meant to say mods not admins

[–] Garrathian@fanaticus.social 1 points 2 years ago

"Only 4 of us moderating"

"Refuses to add mods meanwhile accepting 1000s of applications to join and building said community in a federated space where anyone outside their instance can participate"

Yep, definitely well planned out by those folks hahaha.

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[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
[–] rokejulianlockhart@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Have you filed reports at GitHub?

[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Let's get some basics. When you try to sign up to an instance it should tell you if the username is already in use!

[–] rokejulianlockhart@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Have you filed a request at GitHub?

[–] Scraft161@iusearchlinux.fyi 1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I personally find beehaw's moderation weird, I get that you're trying to create a safe and regulated space, but you simple can't do that with 4 mods on the entire instance. I do think that their decision to jump to defederation is a result of these 4 people being overworked and simply not having the time to rationally evaluate the situation.

if they want to continue like this they'll have to evaluate on whether to appoint proper mods to their communities or just decide to change their stance on "safe" content.

[–] Tetsuo666@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Honestly, I respect their decision but at the same time I wonder why they didn't create a standalone unfederated from the get go.

If you want to keep the community small and tightly nit it's just not compatible with the federation system. Now people got invested in some beehaw communities only to end up disconnected from them.

Still, it's not like there is a guide for this. We are all learning how to make the federation work. I hope we can keep it civil toward instances that choose to defederate.

We are all invested in the same thing: Making Lemmy successful.

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

okay, let's talk turkey. let's define some requirements for the mod tools, and then we can start talking about how to satisfy those requirements.

[–] possum@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Has this ever happened? From what I can tell asking people to fix their issues is the first step, and defederation only happens when they can't/won't fix them yet

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

See this post of mine which was prompted by a mastodon dev reviewing moderation tools on lemmy and kbin:

https://lemmy.ml/post/1286830

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I had a conversation with the reviewer, and my impression was that headway could be made without too much difficulty.

If anyone’s keen, and willing to work in rust or Typescript, there’s probably work you could be doing right now to make better moderation tools.

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I know typescript but not rust. Ive been hearing a lot of chatter about Matrix - do I install and join a server to get plugged into the dev community for lemmy? Or where should I be hanging out to get an idea of what needs to be done? Github?

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Github, yes ... there's a "code" link at the bottom of the page ... that'll take you to their github.

Otherwise, they are on matrix ... i've been there once and they were responsive. Probably a good place to go if you want to start contributing. I don't know where a link to it is ... maybe on the Github or the docs section for contributing?

Good on you, though, for wanting to contribute!!

[–] TheLemmiestLemmy@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

An iOS app would be wonderful. It's the only thing stopping me from being a full-time Lemmy user right now.

[–] Blacklight@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

There is an app called Memmy (which I’m current using!) which both looks good and is good! If on iOS, just go download “TestFlight” and find the website that has the invite for Memmy or Mlem as the user before me mentioned.

[–] Noedel@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (19 children)
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