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[–] dekomote@lemmy.world 88 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The American Chamber of Commerce to the E.U. said the U.S. tariffs and E.U. countermeasures “will only harm jobs, prosperity and security on both sides of the Atlantic.”

You don't say...

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 42 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

My dude, what you forget to see is that this harms the EU a little, it harms the US a little. The same goes for Canada, goes for China, goes for Mexico, but it will add up for the US.

In the meantime, the allies you try so hard to alienate are teaming up and using this opportunity to form tighter bonds, leaving you behind.

(I mean the US politician, not OP)

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

On the other side, we all know that he doesn't give a rat's ass about what happens to the country as long as his bank account gets swol.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 7 points 2 weeks ago

Also, if Canada isn't selling as much to the US, Canada can sell to the EU. It's not as convenient but the EU, Canada and Mexico will happily trade with each other.

[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 87 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm okay with republican states being harmed. They reap what they sow.

[–] toadjones79@lemm.ee 34 points 2 weeks ago

As an American, I absolutely love this.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Reconstruction ended a century too early.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 59 points 2 weeks ago

Yes please. This is a fantastic strategy and I strongly support it.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 58 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

This is a blast from the past when Bush went for steel tariffs

In retaliation, the European Union threatened to counter with tariffs of its own on products ranging from Florida oranges to cars produced in Michigan, with each tariff calculated to likewise hurt the President in a key marginal state. The United States backed down and withdrew the tariffs on December 4.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_United_States_steel_tariff

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Difference is that Trump doesn't give a shit about support for the next election. He only cares to please Putin.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Congress cares and he has far less power if congress is against him.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How many of Trumps actions were blocked by congress?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Will be many if the stock market does not rebound soon enough.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So as of now it's none?
Because he hasn't already been crazy enough for congress to stop him?
Republicans in congress are crazy too, and it requires qualified majority (66%) to stop an executive order AFAIK.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So as of now it's none?

As of now. But there are some who are already making a push back and even Fox news are starting to question Trump. After all, Trump keeps flip flopping because obviously some are already expressing frustrations behind closed doors.

If the silly tariff threats goes on long enough, enough people will become overtly angry.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

The day I see some real serious push-back against Trump, will be a day for celebration.
And by real serious, I mean a lot more than just impeachment that turns out nothing, or the cancellation of a few presidential orders.
I mean real attempts to actually stop him from destroying USA and democracy.

I'm not American, but I don't enjoy seeing USA being destroyed like it is now. We need more sensible leaders in the world, not fewer.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago

None. That's the point. He needs their support so they continue not blocking him.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

MAGA congress critters are all generally in safe, gerrymandered districts.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't target the deep magas. You target the weak vulnerable republicans. It's a numbers game. You just need to turn a handful.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

You target all of them, with as much force as you can muster.

You dont convert nazis by being nice to them. There is only one solution that works when dealing with fascists.

[–] bingBingBongBong@lemm.ee 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Bush had no russian handler

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

He did have a sort of handler co-president though, so that hasn't changed

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today -1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah. He had Cheney as his handler. The same Cheney who was on stage talking about great Harris is.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

gotta love the eu. Effective and gives me an idea of what I don't want to buy living in a blue state.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Canada has a similar list, FYI.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have only seen american and not red state specific. granted the only thing out of the eu article is bourbon and I don't drink much and when I do its more likely vodka anyway.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I assure you, the actual Canadian list is painfully detailed. One item specifically listed is fitted cases for church bells.

Florida oranges and Ohio appliances are two prominent ones I hear mentioned fairly often.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

ohio in particular im disapointed in. like I understand alabama and kentucky with their education but ohio is a massive disapointment.

[–] tonntaalainn@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

As a citizen of a devolving red state I'm asking, pleading with the rest of the world to do more harm to these trash humans earnings.