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This became easy to predict about 15 years into the neoliberal project.

It’s the regime’s new economic paradigm.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (6 children)

What exactly do you think the word "liberal" means? Because I can tell you right now that Jumbo Shrimp makes more sense than Nazi Liberal. They're opposed ideologies.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Buddy, if you can't see how Ronald Regan, creator of neo liberalism, led to fascism in America, you don't know what the words mean or their history. They ain't opposing. Ask Chuck Schumer how opposed he is.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Ronald Reagan is famously opposedto Liberalism.

"If Fascism Ever Comes to America, It Will Come in the Name of Liberalism

~Ronald Reagan

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

See, this is what I mean by "you don't know what these words mean."

To quote the Wikipedia page of (keyword neo) NEO-liberalism

"Scholars tended to associate it with the theories of economists working with the Mont Pelerin Society, including Friedrich Hayek, Milton Friedman, Ludwig von Mises, and James M. Buchanan, along with politicians and policy-makers such as Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, and Alan Greenspan."

You see, the word neo isn't just a funny haha shits and giggles addon. It's there for a reason. To be specific. Ronald Regan is not a liberal. He hated liberals. He's a neo liberal. Annoying? Yeah, but still, a purposeful distinction. Which you don't know about which makes talking to you "about" that specific topic very very hard. Cause you don't know the basic political vocabulary.

I'm not trying to be mean, it's really hard to say "you don't know what this word means" in a nice way to a stranger over the internet.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Mont Pelerin Society

Finally, we're getting somewhere! An actual definition of what you think it means with some substance to it!

They were a thinktank operating on anti-governmental, pure privatizationg, unregulated "laissez-faire" markets, and most importantly ANTI-TAX.

Here is the hilarious part of all of this, you don't need to invent a new word with Liberal as the root for these people. We've had one since 1789. The word is Libertarianism. I'm sorry to be the one to teach you that the word you were using was the wrong word the entire time. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm sure this is quite embarrassing for you to lecture others on something you yourself were wrong about.

[–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nah, libertarians can be everything from the fucking gun-wielding nuts so common in the US to socialist libertarians or anarchists. OP used the word correctly and you are just wrong and a bit petty.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Libertarians vote Republican, that's all you need to know about them from a moral perspective. They're not big promoters of actual human rights.

[–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I didn't write much in the previous comment. You didn't read or understand it. There ist more in the world than those shits you have in the US.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

That's fair, I've never conversed with any Libertarians outside of the USA, however the specifics of USA and UK were given with the previous user as he specifically mentioned the socioeconomic policies of Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, and Alan Greenspan. Those were all examples of Libertarianism, and several were explicitly anti-Liberal such as Ronald Reagan who said "If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism."

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Liberalism is a right-wing capitalist/colonial ideology based on white supremacy and economic pseudo-science. Historically it's been the basis of slavery, colonialism, genocide, etc. and it still serves that role today.

These people are definitely liberals.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 3 days ago

Oh boy. You're not wrong but my country has a looong history of convincing even the most liberal-minded that words mean something different, here, when they do not. Then people act surprised when the Overton window has shifted so far right that right looks center... If they bother to notice past culture wars and id pol.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I've been taking crisis deescalation classes for a decade and got certified to teach them this year. I've had classes that teach this as a good posture to keep because it keeps your hands visible and ready to cover your face. To me it reads as extremely dishonest. I think there's a bit of an art to it and everybody's ideal stance is going to be a little different depending on their style of interaction, but that's definitely not one that would look good on me.

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Wow, such solid hairplugs. Dyed daily.

When are y'all getting your pitchforks and torches?