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Sanders is one of the most popular politicians in the US, and his political analysis and messaging remain as relevant and compelling as ever. But while his Tour to Fight Oligarchy is inspiring and important, the broad left badly needs a political vision that goes beyond Sanders.

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Fuuuuck you. I've been hearing more and more from Democrats saying you better get the fuck on our boat, like this is some kind of cult and not a political party I'm tangentially associated with.

The best part about this country is no one gets to tell me a goddamn thing. You don't get to tell me "forget Bernie!" because fuck you, I'm an American and I'll hold out hope for as long as that fucker is alive, especially so when we live in a time when we're electing people well into their 80s to political power--and he's still within that strike zone.

Don't like it? Then let's talk about maximum age for service and term limits. But until we do, literally shit into your hands and eat it.

[–] lakemalcom10@lemm.ee 18 points 4 days ago

Read the article, you agree with it

[–] rock_hand@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

We need more like sanders. Fuck the democrats. I want independents and I want all those who aren’t on board with the Democrat party to recognize it’s time for a change. Especially now in this time of rebuilding while conservatives are in power.

[–] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bernie should be running "here's how to run for office in your area" drives on his oligarchy tour. The only way progressives will kick out corporate democrats is by the common person running more. Bernie should be pushing more people to run instead of just getting up on a stage in front of people and being a politician. He's not a good organizer. Great talker. Horrible at getting people out to vote. Dude couldn't even get enough people out to vote in the Democrat primary in 2016 to defeat Clinton. She beat him by a larger voting margin than Trump won by last year.

[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Oh no, every fuckin person In line to vote with me just said they were voting for Clinton because they were told he couldn't win. Everyone agreed with him yet I couldn't convince the 20 people in line that if we all voted for him it could all work. The dnc did him wrong, the media coverage wasn't great (never is take that as it is), and people thought Clinton was a shoe-in. I dont disagree with your statement for teaching people how to run, but don't disregard how the dnc didn't want him there at all.

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 14 points 4 days ago

Yes, and no. Yes, we do need to move beyond him and seek out fresh, new voices. No, because we still need him to provide his own opinions while he is still here. We can have both.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Sanders works with democrats while voters paint democrats as evil. If you love Bernie then ask yourself why does he keep such company? Vilifying the dem party ain’t helping and your Bernie recognized that a long time ago. What are you accomplishing ?

Something needs to change either people pull their head out of their ass and cut this shit out, or they get better at shit and stop it. But wtf

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Trash article.

Their foreign policy criticism of Bernie is that he told people to vote for Kamala, and she didn't do enough to stop the genocide in Gaza.

Like Jesus Christ, people like this are why the Democrats cant win.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She indicated that she would continue biden's unquestioning and unconditional support for netanyahu's genocide.

You can make your point without downplaying genocide support.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh please do go ahead and tell me how much Trump is doing to stop that.

Oh what's that? Nothing?

Are you saying that it was fucking obvious everyone should vote for and endorse Kamala?

Jesus fucking Christ, anyone who didn't support Kamala was dumb as fuck. Full stop. If your criticism of Bernie was that he supported the obvious lesser of two evils then maybe you deserve the president you got.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If your criticism of Bernie was that he supported the obvious lesser of two evils then maybe you deserve the president you got.

Where did I criticize Bernie?

And anyone who supports genocide is human garbage and will always deserve worse than they're currently getting. Regardless of how shitty what they're getting is, they deserve worse.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This literal entire comment chain is about how the article's foreign policy criticism of Bernie is that he endorsed Kamala, and she didn't do enough to stop the Palestinian genocide.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 4 days ago

Sanders's problem isn't policy, but organization. He's great at advocating policies, but there needs to be a better organization in creating more progressive politicians.

[–] alykanas@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 days ago

Like fucking milk.

The left needs to stop with the purity tests and start doing the do the work. Bernie is flawed, as are we all, but he is out there knocking doors .

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The left is way beyond Bernie Sanders, Democrats need to move beyond Bernie Sanders

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