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We've gone full circle from "Eggs are too high" to "Eggs are fine just shut up about it".
Man I can't wait for Trump to tell me that our wages being the same as they are since 2020 is actually a good thing when rent and groceries are going up, so we have even less purchasing power.
Cannot wait for the bothsiderists to claim how donvict doing things to actively crash the economy and then gaslight about it is equivalent to how terrible it was for Biden/Kamala to speak about an economy that was "the envy of the world".
"With Sleepy Joe Biden, nobody had cardboard, it was so hard to get, terrible economy, everybody said so, even the Democrats. Now you look around this great nation of ours, under my plan, everybody has cardboard. Everybody. Look at any sidewalk, every person has a big piece of cardboard they can write on. Everybody is willing to work, it says so on the cardboard that everybody can get now."
Dude just wiped billions of the economy, and he still thinks he's going to be alive next year. Honestly, Russia got what they needed out of him. Just just a liability for them at this point
Trillions. There's an article that hit my feed that shows that the NYSE and DJ indexes have lost 5 trillion dollars in value in the last 3 weeks.
Chocolate rations have been increased to 20g a week.
People are still gonna notice that they can't afford groceries.
Are they though? "Idiot Biden, sleepy Joe as they say, left us a terrible economy, terrible, this is the worst economy we've ever seen. Poor America. But I have very bright minds, the smartest minds, hard at work on it. To fix the economy, we're gonna make it all better."
I'm pretty sure you were not necessarily quoting him directly, but I would point out that he and his apparatchiks have literally said such things, including how Biden's economy, which was by objective measurements (yeah, I know they are imperfect) the "envy of the world, was AXETUALLY the "worst" economy ever.
Which is just such ridiculous nonsense. Meanwhile, donvict takes actions that have consequences, one of which is crashing the economy and they expect us to sit there and believe such nonsense? I know a lot of idiots won't even bother to look it up, even if it's just a graph of the S&P, but holy shit, that is some next-level, Orwellian-type brazen lying.
trumpers can blame biden all they want. You can't deny an empty belly, and if the president is saying everything is great while the evidence to the contrary is literally visceral, that's not gonna work for long. Just look at how well doing that exact thing worked out for biden and harris.
I suspect that trump will try it anyway and once it fails, he'll pick the next entry on the "then they came for" list and start blaming them.
But want the economy doing good under Biden? Sure you had inflation but at a much lower scale then most of the world. I don't get why you think it was bad? Or am I missing something.
Most people are too stupid to realize that the economy is like a massive cargo ship, it was on a course set by Trump when Biden got elected, and it took nearly 4 years for Biden to change course. Now that's just the first step. You have to then wait for the ship to get out of the storm and reach it's destination, which is where the disconnect lays. We're all still seeing the storm and feeling the rain, and the ship bobbing in huge waves, and Biden was telling us that everything was getting better. He wasn't wrong People just don't realize how long it takes to get out of the storm even after the course has been corrected.
Date Rape Donny on the other hand is steering us straight into the storm, while telling us it doesn't exist
For changes in the economy like those, you really need a two term president: one term to lay the groundwork and the second to “stay the course” to reap the benefits.
This is also where Harris’ response of not wanting to change anything is the best choice. She would have seen the benefits and received credit for Biden’s groundwork.
Its difficult to get this across, especially since so many voters don’t have the respective or patience to look beyond immediate needs
Depends on how you define the economy. The economy won't be good in the eyes of the average person until there has been a huge redistribution of wealth back to lower classes.
And that won't happen under an oligarchy, because Trickle Down economics is a lie.
I am so refreshed being here. I hate Trump. But bidens magical economy was not reality, myself and many of my circle all in very high demand sectors spent longer unemployed than any other time in history. People were hungry and unable to pay bills. Who was benefitting from his economy? Only the ultra wealthy. I just don't see it. And I feel gaslit when people say bidens economy was so good. Trumps is worse of course but we haven't even reached a minimum.
The economy was doing well, but as we see in these comments that it’s tough to communicate things like
Yet this is already a wall of text many would ignore
They convinced enough people that crime was rampant because of illegals when crime was down and immigrants (illegal or legal) are less likely to commit crimes.
The problem with the Biden economy was that the conventional economic measures were good, but groceries still went up. Effectively, this already didn't work for Biden, even though Biden technically wasn't lying.
It became evident how out of touch biden and then later harris were.
EDIT: extraneous "how"
Trump doesnt need to manipulate much. I live in deep red country. They are upset that fox has "completely changed" and they want to go to newsmax instead.
They are soooo fucking close to getting it. But the propaganda seed has already been planted.
That is not the insight you think it is. Newsmax is the successor to Fox. What you're saying is they want to bury their heads even deeper into the fascist propaganda machine.
Seth Meyers:
Newsmax, if you're not familiar, is if Fox News had a crazy uncle.
For what it’s worth, you can’t tell people their paychecks are getting bigger when they aren’t. Biden presided over a “great economy” but wages stagnated and buying power decreased. Trump is going to Strangelove-ride this economy into a pit so deep it’ll be hard to convince people that everything is roses.
Yet this is all so politically driven.
For example, there were many minimum wage hikes during Biden’s term, lifting the lowest wages. At the state level. In blue states. Politicians in the states that needed this most blocked both federal increases and those for their own states. How are those politicians not the ones getting the blame?
As another example, legislation signed by Biden resulted in many additional business benefits in factories and trades. This would have created many new jobs, especially in some of the most low wage parts of the country. But not until the factories are built. And political changes where the government won’t follow through with its commitments means many of these will no longer be built. Why isn’t the administration stopping these new jobs getting the blame?
A huge difference between the left and the right is that the left respects the citizens and gives them the benefit of the doubt on how much they understand and consider. The right doesn’t overestimate them and accurately reckons and takes full advantage of their reactive, unanalytical character.
It'll work for a while on some people, but yeah, eventually it'll come crashing all down, especially if companies start using the fake figures into their future planning.
I'm pretty sure this is also why they want to annex Canada, Greenland, and Panama (maybe Mexico if they think they can get away with it). It's the exact same strategy the Nazis used, and I'm not invoking that lightly: when their economy was absolute dogshit, the Nazis made it look WAY better by A) going to a war footing and B) invading other countries and stealing everything that wasn't nailed down (then stealing everything else, including the nails.)
TBF Trump did exactly this in his first term when he changed the withholding to make people think their taxes went down, when in reality they ended up paying the same or more when they filed.
Very true, but that only works on a small scale for a specific thing. This economy is about to crush almost all of us. There will be no denying it.
You can fool some people sometime, but you can't fool all the people all the time
Not surprisingly, he is a narcissist. https://youtu.be/cmTeg0B9tH8
I honestly think he's a psychopath. He's hugely narcissistic, impulsive, highly manipulative and believes whatever suits him in that moment