jonne

Yeah, it was a very effective piece of propaganda to the point that Luddite is an insult now.

On the other hand, Biden is a Catholic too and that wasn't an election issue. And Trump probably couldn't tell you which denomination he pretends to be part of.

You can probably just track how much booze is being ordered to Hegseth's office.

The protests didn't do anything to that, it was the insurgency causing a steady supply of body bags to come back.

Which wasn't the case before the invasion, when there were 0 US troops. Why the fuck do you bring up current day when I'm talking about protests that happened over 20 years ago (by people who knew the current outcome was likely)?

And the number there should be is 0, I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make here. People didn't want a war in Iraq in 2003, there were mass peaceful protests, and yet it still happened.

The USA actually still had troops in Iraq, Syria, Jordan, etc. And the protests were to prevent an invasion from happening in the first place, not to go in, kill a million people and then 2 decades down the line throw up your hands and say 'that was a mistake' with no consequences for anyone that pushed for it.

Defunding the police is actually popular as long as you don't call it 'defunding the police'.

That's just horrific.

My theory is that you need both. You need figures that are non violent, but also the threat of more violent leaders around the corner if the non violent ones get ignored. You need Malcolm X to make MLK look like the compromise.

Yeah, look at the Iraq war protests, they didn't amount to anything because they were peaceful and easily ignored by the media.

Happened during the first Trump admin as well. He fired all the pandemic guys and then was caught with his pants down when a pandemic happened.