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Lidar is clearly superior and Musk removed it because it was more expensive. The obvious conclusion is any self driving car should be made to use lidar and not simple vision based on cameras. Well at least not solely vision. Musk’s sycophants are just going to keep providing excuses and “whatabout’isms”. But there really is no doubt.

Human eyes are way better at this than any camera based self driving system. No self driving system is anywhere close to driving in Swedish winter with bad weather and no sun, yet us Swedes do it routinely by the millions every day.

Human eyes are much better at picking up shapes from complex visual clutter than computers. Not to mention that human eyes have infinitely better dynamic range than cameras (every time you go into or out of a tunnel the camera is essentially blind for a couple of seconds until it readjusts), both mean that while you absolutely do need the cameras, you can't just rely on them and say "oh well humans only use their eyes", because the cameras and the computers are nowhere near human level capable.

Whilst I agree on the wall, fog and rain are not extreme weather conditions. I'd rather he'd used a level of rain that was less intense. However, the fact is lidar still worked even though it was not clear it was going to.

Tesla users with low empathy: who cares?

Seriously though, why ditch lidar?

Even worse, you could actually easily see the mannequin behind the rain curtain.

It's already going to cost them what I imagine is billions in upgrades.

On the last earnings call Elon finally admitted that HW3 will probably need to be upgraded for people who bought/buy FSD.

That's millions of cars, and there's been some rulings that the upgrade includes people who decided to subscribe to fsd instead of purchase.

Lawsuits aside from it never being complete, the moment whatever their latest tech is that can, even if it is somehow all cameras, is going to lead to millions of cars needing upgrades.

However, if they truly solve it, that's probably a drop in the bucket compared to the profits itd generate even if they have to add lidar or refund thousands of dollars per vehicle.

I'd say that the quest party is that Mark Rober said he'll probably buy another Tesla.

Let that sink in a minute.

I don't want him driving my car either

You still think that musk’s company will deliver what musk promised. How the fuck is that possible?

Thanks for sharing. That was a very informative and succinct video

Pre-cut with comedy edges as well. But the methodology seemed valid as another poster said, giving cars the same limited eyesight as us seems like under engineering for safety.