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Summary

Donald Trump fired FTC Commissioners Alvaro Bedoya and Rebecca Kelly Slaughter, the agency’s only Democrats, prompting accusations of illegal action.

Both cited Supreme Court precedent protecting FTC commissioners from dismissal without cause. Bedoya warned Trump wants the FTC to serve corporate interests, while Slaughter said the administration fears accountability.

The 1935 Supreme Court ruling bars presidents from removing FTC commissioners arbitrarily.

Critics say the move undermines regulatory independence and eliminates opposition voices that could challenge Trump’s policies favoring major corporations.

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 1 day ago (3 children)

so, two rational conclusions here:

if he illegally fired you, you were not fired. show up to your job, sue when they don't pay you.

OR

laws are bullshit. grab a gun and find a nazi to point it at.

[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

100%!

I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently.

What you say is completely constitutional, but not legal. Laws are only here to maintain control, the constitution is more abstract.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I really don't vibe with the constitution being special. it's just some shit some assholes agreed on 250 years ago. doesn't even fully prohibit slavery.

[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

Honestly, that’s fair. AFAIK the founding fathers were mostly capitalists and they made the rules to protect themselves.

That said, I think in the timeline of human history, we’re converging towards better governance and I think the US constitution is largely a step in the right direction.

But also it’s more abstract and if you look at it, it’s not that bad.

I’m not American thought.

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[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The amended version prohibits involuntary servitude except for convicted criminals.

im aware of the exact wording and how it doesn't say 'no slavery ever'.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

goddamnit, i start getting hard when i read "rational conclusion" followed by a true statement. you earned my upvote.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Laws are bullshit only for some people.

[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Which makes them bullshit, no?

[–] moot@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I think they're saying that rich people are allowed to break the law.

[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I agree. It’s just a matter of semantics.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The point is, if you break the law you will get the whole slew of consequences, if they do it they will get jack shit.

[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I know.

Edit: Oh you’re the op of this comment. I think we’re in agreement

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

so laws are bullshit, and it's just a man pointing a gun at you.

it's just whatever he wants; the rhetoric of noncompliance with written laws is just an excuse to get people to not help and overwhelm the fucker.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 202 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Biden: "I can't fire a postmaster general who actively tried to sabotage the election against me in 2020 because it would be against the law."

Trump: " I fired someone who SCOTUS directly said i can't fire because some people openly bribed me"

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Biden then preceded to fill the open slots on DeJoys board with DeJoy supporters btw.

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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Hey at least they have the moral high ground - they'll have a good view watching the country sink into fascism from up there

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[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This makes no sense unless he can't get his own people on the FTC or the FTC Republicans aren't amenable to his agenda. It's a bipartisan agency and the head leaving earlier left a spot open to swing the 5 person board to the Republicans.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't understand why the Fuhrer voted himself additional emergency powers, he should have as much power as he needs as chancellor of the reichstag?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Stop making sense. I want to go back to the 90s when such an idea was laughable.

[–] ksigley@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago

While we cannot go back, what we can do is go forwards.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why are you still expecting nuance? They're Democrats and haven't kissed his ass yet. That means they're on the chopping block.

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[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 148 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Most blatantly and openly venal miserable and horrible attempt at an "administration" in the last 60yrs... Likely in US history.

Helluva legacy for you Chump! Good one!

🙄 🙄 🖕 🖕 🖕

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[–] Itzdan@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What I don't understand is, in what sense did he actually fire you? It's illegal. Just show up to work anyways.

[–] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If the security team and the operations team are willing to obey the order and revoke access then the illegal firing is very much effective.

The jackboot thugs that work security for these government agencies have repeatedly demonstrated that they're happy to listen to the children running DOGE over the members of the agency that they're supposed to be securing, so at that point what do you expect one of these beaurocrats to do? Get into a fist fight with all the mall cops that are itching to serve the fascists?

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[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 65 points 1 day ago (18 children)

administration fears accountability

Pfffft. That is so fucking bullshit. No they don't. They don't fear accountability or responsibility. This administration is lead by a 34-count convicted felon/rapist, a two-time impeached, failed businessman of a crook. What the fuck does he have to lose in terms of credibility that makes him think twice of the actions he's done?

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Just illegal, fascist things.

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