Only if it stops Nigel Cunting Farage from getting anywhere near Downing Street. Otherwise keep the current system until he’s fucked off somewhere.
this post was submitted on 19 Mar 2025
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Make Votes Matter is a political pressure group based in the United Kingdom which campaigns for replacing the archaic first-past-the-post voting system with one of proportional representation for elections to the British House of Commons. The group was founded in 2015.
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We need sortition.
I saw this video on some other voting methods some time ago, might be interesting to some: https://youtu.be/yhO6jfHPFQU
tl;dw all voting systems have some flaw(s), but FPTP is the flawiest of them all and should be replaced asap
Fuck it. No compromise direct democracy. We're at a point where it's possible now.
While I appreciate the video educating me on the approval system. I disagree with its final conclusion as proportional representation is more tried and tested. As it counts 95% of the vote, allows smaller parties/independents to compete and improves the government’s performance on economy, inequality, social justice and climate.
The countries that rank the highest in international rankings such as Finland, Norway, Switzerland, Denmark, Ireland and Iceland all use a form of proportional representation.
The single transferable vote blows instant runoff right out of the water as it’s ranked and proportional avoiding the pitfall strengthening the 2 big parties. It works great in Ireland, as they have friendly politics and regularly elect independents.
Replace commons with STV, and Lords with PR.
Devolve English powers away from Commons and Lords too.
Ideal set up would be:
3 regional assemblies, cut England in a Y shape to give approximately similar population regions, voted through PR. All regional level, domestic decisions are delegated. Replaces the Lords.
Rename the Commons to British Senate (or whatever) and they control national decisions and general UK policy.
Monarchy is given the remainder of the existing one generation to continue to receive the rents, but after Charles will be disbanded as a government institution.
In 2010 the lib dems campaigned on introducing proportional representation and dropping tuition fees. They got into coalition government with the Tories then completely dropped these issues.
None of them are going to do it. We will have fascism before proportional representation, because the wealthy, and the British establishment, prefer it.
The lib Dems campaigned and we had a referendum. Don't make shit up.
The population chose fear mongering over a better voting system.
This is absolutely, unequivocally wrong.
Yes we do.
How do we get it? By using the current highly flawed system and convincing the winner to change to a better way of doing things despite them benefitting from the status quo! Yeah, I see the problem.
Most countries receive pr through multi-party agreements, you’re on the right track by suggesting a sortition as the government could put together a group of everyday citizens to review all the electoral systems in 3 months to recommend the best one. That then the British government must be pressured to implement with the other parties.
Ireland and New Zealand pressured their establishment politicians to do the right thing and they got electoral reform passed. So the same can happen in the UK. It’s just a matter of persistence and pressure from the public.