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Ukraine won't sign minerals deal with US if it threatens EU membership, Zelensky says (kyivindependent.com)

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President Volodymyr Zelensky warned on March 28 that Ukraine will reject a proposed U.S. minerals deal if it endangers the country’s EU accession.

A new draft, reportedly granting the U.S. extensive control over Ukrainian natural resources, raised concerns over economic sovereignty.

Zelensky said lawyers will review the agreement, emphasizing it must not conflict with Ukraine’s constitutional EU alignment.

The initial deal would create a joint fund reinvesting extraction proceeds into Ukraine. The White House views it as a way to recoup aid, but Kyiv remains cautious after a prior dispute with Trump.

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[+] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 96 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

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[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But the minerals will make the rich richer, so of course, the minerals MUST be mined! It's capitalism 101

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago

We require more minerals for the expansion of the creep!

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't really matter. Ukraine does not have significant rare earth deposits in the first place. The whole thing is a farce.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Iirc the dirty secret of rare earth metals is that every country has them in at least some capacity even if there's variability in how easy to access those deposits are. The dirty part is that the countries that produce them less so have a particular abundance and more so have a lack of environmental regulations.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

It’s like they want humanity to starve.

Quite a few members of the Trump Administration, including his Secretary of Health and Human Services, are avowed eugenicists.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Around here they build shopping malls over the most fertile land we have access to instead of using it to grow food for the millions of people living right next to it...

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ontario. Open for businesses.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Quebec, south shore of the St Lawrence, across the bridge from Montreal!

[–] gressen@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I was with you until you mixed nuclear into the post. Chernobyl was a series of human errors and bad decisions. We need nuclear to fix our energy issues and slapping the name onto a separate issue is dishonest and makes me doubt your intentions.

[–] Denvil@lemmy.one 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They never claimed that nuclear is bad, they claimed that the Chernobyl disaster has already negatively impacted the land enough, mining would only make it worse

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Who is "we"?

e.g. Germany already produces 60% of its power reneweable. The plan is 100% by 2030-2035. And the prices for reneweables are already far below the ones for nuclear.

So why throw 10 billion euro into building a nuclear power plant that delivers 1 Gigawatt when you build reneweables for 1 billion that delivers 10 Gigawatt?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nope, we don't. This talking point is about a decade out of date. The solutions are all sitting right there without building any new nuclear.

https://www.amazon.com/No-Miracles-Needed-Technology-Climate/dp/1009249541

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The argument behind this book revolves around cheap, durable, and at-cost managed utilities with the capacity to shepherd renewable energy in a manner that replicates the need for base load.

The problem with this as a solution comes down to an unforgiving contradiction - this solution does not create high rates of profit. Without high-profit public works, you don't get buy-in from the financial sector. And without financial sector buy-in, you don't get business administrators willing to engage the private sector in construction, development, and maintenance of these systems.

The book doesn't mint enough new billionaires, so it won't be accepted as a solution in a western free market system. It is, incidentally, why nuclear energy is also unpopular in the US. Compared to gas, oil, and coal, the margins on nuclear electricity are too damned low. Green energy only works because it is so intermittent and temporal, allowing energy brokers to trade on the ups and downs of supply as they fall out of sync with demand.

If you make the system efficient, you lose all the opportunities for arbitrage that incentivize private actors to invest and extract wealth.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 63 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Don’t sign a deal with the US at all.

The US cannot be trusted.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 20 points 3 weeks ago

Absolutely not. Assume they're colluding with Russia.

[–] mooncake@lemm.ee 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why the fuck would you even consider signing anything to that fat orange shit? Every single one of his administration just made a mockery of you last month

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why the fuck would you even consider signing anything to that fat orange shit?

Ask Chuck Schumer. He insists he's got his reasons.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because, unlike Trump, he wants his constituents to stop dying.

[–] Enzy@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And unlike Trump, isn't a waste of oxygen on this planet.

But I'd rather pick total annihilation than bowing to a dictator. So hope the EU deal isn't interrupted by the orange turds and their stink.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 27 points 3 weeks ago

We’ve reached the point where signing a deal with the US threatens EU membership 😞

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago

A deal with the USA means nothing, but that is as true today as it was in 2014 and 2022.

[–] FoolishAchilles@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

Capitalists crave that mineral

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

He shouldn’t sign it at all because it’s fucking stupid.