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[–] ctkatz@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago

the smart ones are. the cultists are wrapping themselves in ~~nationalism~~ patriotism. the rest are just terminally unaware and don't vote.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago

It's been a rogue state for decades, they call it 'American Exceptionalism', and the 'patriotic Americans' are happy about it.

[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Those of us who pay attention are very aware. The usual suspects remain ignorant to their reality, as usual.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Everyone I know is nihilistic and numb. We know.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

Between the media surpression and the fact a lot of people don't follow the news, or give a shit, i'd say no.

[–] Civil_Liberty@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

We understand that fully 1/3 of our population are absolutely bonkers. It's like being in a boat at sea and 1/3 of the passengers are drilling holes in the bottom of the boat. What the rest of the world should know is that no matter how fucked it seems at the moment, it is going to get worse. We are on the precipice of a climate catastrophe. The AMOC is going to grind to a halt, Europe is going to go into a deep freeze, weather patterns globally are going to fall apart and become chaotic. The real problems are in the distance, so you should prepare yourselves.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

American Exceptionalism, Baby!

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[–] Moeverload@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago

For some reason the administration and conservatives want to be a rogue state, they enjoy it. Rest of the country is either politically oblivious or helplessly defiant.

Many Americans are unaware of the problems due to media censorship.

However they're creating so many problems that even those with blinders on are seeing this shit.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago

The people cheering it on think it's patriotism. Then there still seems to be maybe a third of us who think this was just another election we had in 2024.

The rest of us know, and are appropriately freaked the fuck out.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

We’re aware. People who get all their news from Fox or ignore politics in general probably aren’t but even my conservative family members are embarrassed about the threats to Canada and Greenland. Canadians are generally considered super nice and polite by Americans so pissing them off crossed a line. Even apolitical people probably know the U.S. National Anthem is being booed at sporting events.

There’s elections in several states today that will provide some data to know more. Louisiana had an election on Saturday and rejected 4 constitutional amendments supported by Republicans. None even got 40%. Louisiana is an oddball state so I’m not sure it’s a harbinger of today’s elections but if voters in Wisconsin and elsewhere vote like Louisiana, it’ll be very telling.

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[–] Mallspice@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Depends. Everyone who voted against Trump knows this and it’s probably why they did but most non voters and maga are still ignorant.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago

People know at various levels. You are seeing maga types even recognizing this stuff aint so great for them and repbulicans who go with it to be winning to realize it might not have been a smart move. Then like most of the democratic congress feel they need to make moves with the next election. Then there are the ones with their eyes open who realize he is now clearing house and putting in as many as possible who will heil on command at as high a levels as possible and make sure all the rest are cowed by removing any security their position might have had. We see he is already floating ideas to make new election restrictions and extend his term and has no problem breaking laws and constitutions and court orders and such.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think in NY we are aware and the state is trying brace for the worse, and I see/hear people starting gardens, getting chickens, and basically have "bug out bags" incase things go sideways.

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[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I own guns now. I never did or even considered it until the election results in November.

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

We been a rogue state for 100 years

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

uhhh always has been?? google github us atrocities

[–] kava@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

A superpower by definition cannot really be a rogue state. A "rogue state" is a political label applied by dominant powers to states that defy the international order. For example Iran or North Korea are considered rogue states because they defy the international order. What is "the international order"?

Well, it's the combination post-WW2 institutions created by none other than the US. The UN, IMF, NATO, etc. They set the norms of "legitimate" behavior. When the US participates in military interventions, economic sanctions, and other aggressive actions it's framed as upholding "rules-based order" whereas identical actions by weaker states get them condemned with the label as "rogue states".

To call the US a rogue state is to misunderstand power. Hegemony is the ability to define reality, not just defy it. In this way, the US has always been a rogue state in the sense that it does whatever it wants regardless of the international norms. I mean, just look at the mid 1900s and its actions in Latin America. It was involved in about a dozen states toppling governments and supporting military dictatorships- including sponsoring the genocide of natives in Guatemala.

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[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Some of us are. No idea how many. We are separated into news bubbles.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We have a 24 hr billionaire backed propaganda news channel that for some weird reason Americans watch the most. The other main stream news is propaganda light. The few truthful news organizations are nowhere near as well funded and they’re being targeted and silenced by trump and musk. All of our major social media platforms have turned far right facist and we have tons of billionaire backed podcasts devoted to radicalizing young men. I think it’s too late for us but the question is will the facist billionaire cancer spread to Canada and Europe. Those of us who are hyper aware of what is going on are deeply worried but also want to get our loved ones through this alive.

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