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[-] Drusas@kbin.social 74 points 1 year ago

This whole meme is based on a lie; people on a keto diet get harassed all the time.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

Guilty conscience meat eaters use concern trolling to salvage their own self-esteem. In my experience, those expressions of worry are back handed compliments at best. They never come from people who are in better shape than I am and they don't come from people with better nutrition either.

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Wow you really nailed it.

I lost 58kg and the only things I ever heard was concern trolling from my friends that resented me for doing what they could not.

Never heard word one about my body while I was unhealthy and unhappy, and the shitty remarks started as soon as the weight reduction became noticeable.

"Woah slow down, don't want you to disappear!" "You've proven your point! You can eat a donut!" "Why do you want to be miserable and only eat seeds?" "Fuck dude you're vanishing! Eat a hamburger!" "You think you're better than everyone now!" "It's actually really unhealthy to be as lean as you've become." "Don't like hanging out anymore, you make me think about every molecule I put in my damned mouth!" "You look like a skeleton now."

And so forth.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Wow those are shitty people. Good on you for losing that weight, as a hefty fellow it's fucking haaaaard work and you should be proud of the effort you put in!

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the support!

I made so many changes in my journey. I taught myself to cook and made every meal from scratch ingredients... for 6 months. I'm reminiscing now thinking about how many tortillas I've pressed, sauces I've made, things I've fermented, and hundreds of hours on the cutting board. How many times I ordered a "kid size" pizza or sundae on my "cheat" days lol

I ran (poorly), swam, rode, lifted and burned so many calories. I meditated every day and did monthly therapy to help with the mental stress of the physical and lifestyle changes. That is all time, effort, pain, money, and sacrifice.

Every day without wavering I made a hundred difficult little choices that prioritized my goals vs my desires/old patterns. Food everywhere and people genuinely insulted when I wouldn't partake with them or in their way. Watching my friends literally not enjoy their meal from their own shame, just because my serving was conspicuously smaller. Dealing with my biology compelling me to eat one way while I was consciously reprogramming myself to eat another way. Massive social pressures from all sides.

I never really even told anybody of my goals or changes. I didn't make it my personality or a thing. Never spoke of it once or advocated anything to my friends. Only spoke about being slimmer when specifically asked.

That's why it was so hurtful to undertake such tremendous responsibility for my own personal transformation, and then have people internalize it, make my journey about how them and how they feel shitty when they look at me, then make a snide or sinister comment. Only my best friend of 30 years gave me any positive feedback.

The whole thing was kind of a rough ride. Worth it in the end, but wow it was so much more than just eating less.

Thanks for listening. I really appreciate your comment a lot!

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[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago

Maybe it has become worse since all those vegan or vegetarian fast food options became available in stores and restaurants.

When I hear non-vegs talk about living meat-free, the conversation always revolves around these meat substitutes, how unhealthy they are.

It does not come to their mind one can prepare a meal from fresh produce. Yes of course, fast food is unhealthy. On the other hand, I like it.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago

Are the meat substitutes actually bad, though? Certainly can't be worse than normal fast food.

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[-] matter@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I assure you these people are not eating healthy meals lol, it's all bad faith because the idea of them not eating meat makes them feel threatened about the size of their peepee.

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[-] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

So you're telling us you're vegan.

Typical.

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[-] Fleur__@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

You can literally just read the comments from people who eat meat and see that they are more insufferable than vegans right here in this very thread

[-] matter@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

To be fair, meat eaters who come into a vegan community to be whiny little dicks because their masculinity is threatened don't represent the majority of normal people.

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[-] neurospice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 year ago

Always reassuring when carnists come on here to justify themselves on a vegan community. Honestly wouldn't be a vegan space without those comments

It front paged. Nobody "came here" to defend themselves.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Right? They love coming over here to reassure themselves they're not murderers.

[-] neurospice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

It's easier for them to shit on vegans than to admit to themselves that they are causing mass suffering

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[-] Obonga@feddit.de 28 points 1 year ago

Scrolling down half i the comments has give me a true headache. Why do you guys feel the need to explain your consumption to vegans? Not like we have not heard your "arguments" a thousand times before.

Oh wait, you arent trying to justify your actions to us but to yourself?

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[-] Newsilverpig@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

I've done both vegan and keto for over a year at some point during my life and what I will say is that I naturally cover my nutrition bases through preferences and desires, while vegan though I had to hunt down (forgive the pun) b12 and complete proteins combinations a little more diligently to cover my nutrition needs.

Or put differently, I think it's easier to mess up a vegan diet than a keto one.

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[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Man the chuds in this thread really proving the OP right

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[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago

why are there so many triggered omnis in this thread lmao

[-] cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

The post is on the front page

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[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

A whole stick of butter? Like, unfried? Reminds me of the time we had houseguests, opened up the butter dish and found teeth marks.

No one believes it's the cat, Susan.

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