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“It’s really hard out there for an original movie,” he said, urging everyone who liked the Universal Pictures release to “scream it from the rooftops” and on social media.

“Drop” opened this weekend to an estimated $7.5 million domestically, one of two new movies based on fresh ideas that fizzled at the box office. The other was Disney’s “The Amateur,” a spy thriller adapted from a little-known 1981 book, which opened to an estimated $15 million.

After years of gripes from average moviegoers and Hollywood insiders alike about the seemingly nonstop barrage of sequels, spin offs and adaptations of comic books and toys, the film industry placed more bets on original ideas.

The results have been ugly.

Nearly every movie released by a major studio in the past year based on an original script or a little-known book has been a box-office disappointment. Before this weekend’s flops were Warner Bros. Discovery’s “Mickey 17” and “The Alto Knights,” Paramount’s “Novocaine,” Apple’s “Fly Me to the Moon,” Amazon’s “Red One,” and the independently financed “Horizon: An American Saga Chapter 1” and “Megalopolis.”

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[–] jay2@beehaw.org 15 points 4 days ago

Hollywood is NOT cranking out original movies. They follow formulas and reuse them at nausea. It's kinda annoying actually. Everything about it has become lazy and unimaginative

So before I listen toi him whine anymore, did Christopher Landon even make a free Beehaw account and, like, make a post about it? He could have teased it a bit, did an 'ask me anything' or some shit. I actually enjoy a good thriller. I hadn't heard there was a new one out.

[–] Butterbee@beehaw.org 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've never heard of "Drop". Culture has changed a lot in the last 20 years and how we learn about new movies is largely being fed the list of movies we are going to hear about by an algorithm. Granted, I'm specifically avoiding that kind of thing, but for most people they are going to hear about it on Tiktok or Youtube or Shiznab or Fwuhungo or wherever the kids these days hang out. - Shakes fist at clouds - And simply "cranking out original movies" isn't good enough anyway. Are they good movies? Because people will talk about them if they are good. And sometimes even being good isn't enough if the current social climate just isn't into what the movie is doing. Movies at their very best are art, and a lot of the best ones flopped at the box office, only to be rediscovered years later. idk where I'm going with this.. just rambling and also I still have no interest in slop or infinite sequels.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 5 points 4 days ago

I think part of it is a lot of people age out of movies like Clerks rather young. Don't get me wrong, I loved Kevin Smith movies, but am I going to sit down and watch Chasing Amy at 45?

Dogma, sure ... And, incidentally, how much did Rocky Horror make in first run? Cult classics don't tend to be beloved until well after release. If you're looking to goose your Q2 figures, originals are not the way to do it. The payoff comes far later.

[–] chloyster@beehaw.org 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well this does seem a bit outdated now that sinners, a really good original movie, has crushed the box office this weekend

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 4 points 4 days ago

Yeah, and a lot of the movies mentioned are not popular because people did not like them. Of the ones I have heard anything about, Mickey 17 is the only I have heard good things about. Red One, really? That is an example?

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Sorry for being very busy and also kind of poor and also for living about 45 minutes away from the closest movie theater but even further away from one that doesn't completely suck. Also sorry for being incredibly disappointed the past several times I tried to watch something in the theater which left a bad impression that made me less apt to repeat the experience regardless of whether it's an original movie or not. Similarly, I'm very sorry that most of the movies I had even thought about going to the theater to see turned out to be movies that after seeing them in the comfort of my own home, I would have been kinda upset at myself and the universe in general if I had paid movie theater prices to see them.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Bluntly, who has the money to go see a movie these days? Tickets can run north of $20, with popcorn and a soda adding another $15. So, two people seeing a movie is $70 ... for two hours of entertainment. That's fine if it's Penn & Teller ($92 tickets in 2006) and you get to interact with them in the lobby afterward (Teller is actually a delightful guy to talk to), but not for a random movie.

I'm not a fan of reboots, prequels and sequels, but I'm absolutely not shelling out that sort of money unless a friend or acquaintance says something is must-see. The last movie I saw in a theatre was Dune 2 ... and I only went because one of the guys on the local Discord had a membership allowing all of us to see it for $10.

People aren't looking for less entertainment, just affordable shit. I grew up seeing random movies in second run at dollar theatres in the '80s, which was admittedly far more expensive after concessions, but still easily doable for under $8.

Quality is of little import when people can't afford to go in the first place.

[–] The_Sasswagon@beehaw.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Shoot, where I grew up in the early 2000's there was a theater showing second runs that gave you a popcorn and a large drink with the ticket for $5. That was when a standard ticket would be $12 - $15, so it was a great deal if you didn't mind the wait or wanted to see something again (And you didn't mind half the lights being burnt out and the carpet looking like it had been rescued from the dump at least twice before finding itself undefoot).

They went out of business of course, but only when streaming started putting pressure on all the movie theatres. Most of the big name theatres in the area didn't make it either.

Also most of the movies now are terrible, I'll just wait and watch from home when I've had people online filter out the junk for me.

As a side note, my last film in theatres was also Dune 2, which I only saw because friends I hadn't seen in a while were going. I did not see the first one, but I have read the books, so it was fine.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 4 days ago

I mean, that was my take. It was fine.

That's a low bar for entertainment, though.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If Hollywood wants to succeed in today's landscape of lowering box office revenues then it needs to invest in several original low budget movies that employ lesser-known actors. While not all will be winners I'm sure those that surpass expectations would more than make up for the cost of producing so many films. Maybe they should also have less meddling by producers who constantly demand expensive reshoots.

[–] sanzky@beehaw.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

would people show up for these? honestly, going to the cinema is expensive as hell and often not even that good. In days when people have 65' (or larger) 4k TVs with an Atmos soundbar what is the benefit of going to the cinema? Sure, cinemas often have better quality picture and sound, but not always, I've experienced my fair share of bad theaters.

Living outside the US, it also means that I only get subtitled screenings instead of dubbed ones for large blockbusters, which is very annoying.

If find myself in a bit of a paradox. I want more diverse movies to be made, but honestly I doubt I would go to the cinema to watch them when I can do it more comfortably at home.

[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 2 points 3 days ago

In the before times, we used to go to an independent movie theater. It had living room seating - big comfy chairs, waiter service for food and drinks before the show, no minors. Then they decided to try and go public, and AMC did a hostile takeover and they went to shit.

Now the only time I go to a theater, it's the local art house single screen showing limited release and indy films.

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 4 points 4 days ago

At least in the US, going to the movies is expensive as all get out, so I think this is less about the movies themselves. I liked the movie clubs where you get x number of movies a month (I did Cinemark's before COVID), but not everyone has a theatre with that option. Also, for me personally, I am still keeping a tight COVID ship, so that means the draw of places like Cinemark is not there anymore. Overall, it just seems like there are fewer reasons to go a movie, especially when oftentimes movies come out on streaming a few weeks to a couple months after it hits theaters.

[–] sculd@beehaw.org 4 points 4 days ago

The studios spent years training the audience to stream instead of going to the theater. And this is the result.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 4 days ago

Too unemployed, too uninterested.

Movie studios need to find some method to gauge interest in an idea before they spend tens of millions of dollars on it, not blame the people who never said they wanted it for not wanting it.