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I miss nature (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 months ago by SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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I live in Belgium, originally from The Netherlands. Both countries are essentially build up like this: city center - suburban stretch - city center with farm land in between. There is virtually no real nature to be found in both countries with the exception of a small part of southern Belgium. What natural parks we have are basically large artificial plots of nature. Every single inch of these countries is managed beyond belief.

Want to enjoy the few plots of land that are deemed 'nature'? So do the 30 million other people living here. The most remote part in The Netherlands is a point at which you are, hold your hats, 11 km removed from the nearest road. A two and a half hour hike at best.

It's suffocating. There are people everywhere, all the time. You can hear cars at any point in these countries. There is no natural silence. It drives me nuts.

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[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

come to Scotland comrade we got hills and shit

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 months ago

Both Scotland and Sweden sound like nice options to go to at one point

[–] chickennuggies@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Scotland is very, very nice. The coast of England also has some nice cliffsides which you can sit and ponder on

[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Beautiful country. When I was there, I was only in the southwestern part of the highlands. I'd love to see the rest.

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Edinburgh and the coastal path around the east of it towards North Berwick should be on your list.

[–] kaprap@leminal.space 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd love to visit Aberdeen and Loch Ness

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Never goto aberdeen, its what the map on fallout 3 was based on.

Try perthshire and loch lomond instead.

[–] chickennuggies@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I hear Georgia has the most beautiful outdoors, all while being affordable to travel in

[–] SlayGuevara@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It does. Also the Stans if we are going in that direction. Would love to ride my bike through Kyrgyzstan

[–] chickennuggies@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago

That is a great goal to have, you should do it!

[–] Jin008@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago

The Bicycle Diaries by Slay Guevara

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago

I feel a similar way in Germany. I wonder what people mean here when they say they like spending time in nature. "What nature," I think to myself.

[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Any other year I'd say cone to America, we got wilderness for days, but not this year or the next 4... or 8...

[–] commiewolf@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 months ago

It's a consequence for most urban/industrial countries, especially dense ones like the Netherlands, wildlife and nature are pretty much phased out as the biodiversity is usually at odds with the industrial nature of the country's transformation. It's a common issue in most of Europe, and in some places in the global south that are also industrializing rapidly.

[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

There needs to be a rewilding push in the Benelux