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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 99 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not so sure they even want that at all. Simply because of their shameful behavior, while the US president acts like a goddamn Nazi (because he obviously is one, of course).

But for all that, the Democrats have refused to allow even a little progressiveness in their ranks for years, against the wishes of their own voters.

But hey, I don't know very much about all this because I'm from Germany.

All I can say is that in our country - and this applies to larger parts Europe - Sanders, for example, would be a moderate center-left politician. What he is calling for is not at all radical in many parts of the world, but rather quite normal. Basic decency, so to speak...

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yup. The Democratic party is the Republican party of 40 years ago. The Republicans are obviously now literal nazis, fascists, kkk, the worst of the worst. That's all we have and they have no interest in changing that.

Many of us like Sanders because he is a vocal option that is at least left of the status quo. But there are also so many of us that want European left policies. We just can't get it to happen in a winner takes all style of representation. And capitalism.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Overton Window really fucked us.

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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Yes, unfortunately, I think the US has been a plutocracy for way too long already.

I think it's time for US citizens to admit that and change it for good. Of course, I'm fully aware that many Lemmy users have long realized this.

I really don't want to offend anyone with this obvious statement, but it's simply a fact that many people in the USA have been living like in a third world country for a very long time - even though the US is one of the richest countries in the world.

The reason for this is very obvious: shameless enrichment of the rich and powerful - hardly any difference to Russia imo - more humane means so far, yes, but the effect is basically the same.

This is not meant as an insult at all. I just can't believe how obvious the corruption in the USA is: Even in the highest offices. People like the President himself or Clarence Thomas (so on and so on) obviously no longer feel the need to be ashamed of anything - they don't even try to keep any of their criminal activities even remotely secret.

Our system is certainly not perfect and we also have major problems with corruption and also with the resurgence of fascist parties. But the level of open corruption in the USA is still mind blowing to me: The shameless insider deals of the president, the unscrupulousness of constitutional judges who so obviously rule against the constitution! I can't even begin to name even half of it.

Unconditional immunity for presidents? Imprisonment of innocent people without due process? Prisons for profit? I think that's wild and only possible in a failed state!

I mean, you really don't have to be an expert in constitutional law to realize that any even halfway decent democratic constitution would of course rigorously rule all this out.

I myself can only observe this from afar and helplessly feel sorry for all the good and still rationally thinking US citizen.

Of course, I have no solutions. Only the obvious thought that the US institutions have long been corrupted.

I wish you all the best and try to contribute at least something from afar - but unfortunately I have little hope, because I honestly believe that the US system is broken beyond repair.

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[–] toadjones79@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's going to be fun watching all of these traitors stand trials for their crimes.

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Very cute fantasy of yours. Will never happen.

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[–] AbraKadabra1993@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope it gets to that point

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sadly Democrats couldn't make Republicans fear a Lovecraftian Horror.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

So, we should summon a Lovecraftian Horror?

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 48 points 2 days ago (7 children)

And the Democrats won't do that unless the people make politicians fear the consequences of attempting a dictatorship.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

And people won't do that because a large well-funded security state stands between them and the political class.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 76 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The Democratic leadership seems to have decided that the way to do this is “get out of their way and let them complete an irreversible takeover and descent into fascism”.

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[–] aramova@infosec.pub 22 points 1 day ago

Schumer will shake his finger at you vigorously with the glasses on his nose if you don't stop misbehaving

[–] Deathgl0be@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

We as citizens need to use our second amendment. It was created for this.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Sorry, they're too busy trying to stop David Hogg.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

By shifting to the right apparently

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The DNC? Will never happen. They need to be afraid of the people and for all their bluster I've never seen them do anything but capitulate.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

David Hogg (Parkland Massacre survivor, and a loud anti-MAGA voice) is now a vice chair of the DNC, and he is calling for investing $20 million in primarying weak Democratic incumbents. I hope one of those is my Dem congressional rep, who is a useless weenie.

He's starting to show up on political talk shows, and he is a very smart, impressive, charismatic, COURAGEOUS young man, who is determined to change the Democratic party from within. He is scaring the shit out of the old established cowards.

We need to support him, and the rest of the new rising segment of young progressives like AOC, Frost, Crockett, etc., and those they inspire.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

People should not be afraid of the government, government should be afraid of the people.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

As the Founding Fathers intended. That's why they gave us the 2nd Amendment. Dems need to embrace it as much as the Reps do.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (18 children)

They won't. They'll make sure nothing fundamentally changes.

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[–] gitgud@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

Democrats doing literally anything

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Well, unless the Dem voters quit expecting their reps to do something about the situation, it's not gonna change.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

Attempting?

[–] lilsolar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I'm sure a pink shirt and a flag will do the trick!

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They held up little signs, begged for bipartisanship, and voted for Republican only written bills. I mean what more do you want from them!

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

They will not.

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