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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 92 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Another waste of our time and money. It's a bill to try and force companies to remove content they don't like...or else.

This will be shot down in court (again), and since the platforms themselves will be responsible for removing content, will not be forced to comply. It's unconstitutional and unenforceable, so just a big ass waste of everyone's fucking time. So dumb.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You’re assuming the courts will shoot it down. That’s a big assumption these days.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Show me one case where a judge has ruled an unconstitutional thing is suddenly constitutional in all these court cases. Even SCOTUS isnt playing that game.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At least two members of SCOTUS are definitely playing that game

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Two members that know what would happen to them if they fracture codified law and intentionally do not. 300 million of us vs thousands in government.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well not 300 million of us, since seemingly every registered Republican in the nation is also ecstatic about tearing the constitution to pieces. And they’re nearly the only ones among us who actually choose to own guns and have the capacity to actually do anything about it.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

When they ruled he has immunity. And in may well hear the supreme courts ruling on the legitimacy of the fourteenth amendment. Then there’s Eileen Cannon.

[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Allowing trump to run again after inciting an insurrection?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Again, not been a court case. If he tries, it will be shot down. There is no wiggle room for bullshit in the constitution about this.

[–] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yes there has been a court case, Colorado didn't want to put Trump on the ballot because of the insurrection clause, it went up to the supreme Court and they said it was A-OK.

Edit, link: https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/03/supreme-court-rules-states-cannot-remove-trump-from-ballot-for-insurrection/

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not in the constitution. That was a Supreme Court judgement (Roe v Wade) that was overturned.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Roe v Wade determined that the right to privacy was in the Constitution (due process clause of 4th Amendment) and that Texas laws restricting it were unconstitutional.

States restricting abortion was the unconstitutional thing which was suddenly Constitutional again after Dobbs.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, that is how Supreme Court decisions work. Did you imagine that once a thing was ruled unconstitutional, or vice versa, that it could never be reversed?

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago

No, I didn't imagine that.

Did you read the direct thread to my comment?

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Presidential immunity. It's a blanket statement of "you're wrong" to everything you could possibly follow up with attempting to rebutt that statement.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Presidential immunity doesn't extend to every other person acting at the direction of the President. In fact, it extends to nobody. It may not even work if prosecuted, because that's not what SCOTUS actually said. They only said that president couldn't essentially be held liable for presidential actions, and then didn't clarify exactly what those were. They intentionally didn't specifically make a list of this actions, which depending on your viewpoint, means it's everything, or nothing.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Oh I like that. Schrodinger's box with presidential immunity in it.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Even progressive darlen AOC voted for this bullshit. You know who won't Sanders.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

So how would this work with the fediverse? Like we federate all content...its going to be VERY difficult to do anything if political content creators keep being told to take it down.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It doesnt work. Literally unenforceable outside of traditional walled gardens.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Wow. If the fediverse is only operable by meta's instance inside the USA, I'm really going to miss everyone, because I'm just not, with meta.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

so we create a walled garden of our own.

can't complain if the public can't view it.

someone takes screenshots of the problematic content and shares it? well they're in trouble for posting/sharing problematic content.

[–] shani66@ani.social 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

No, it's worse than that. It's impossible to meet the standards set in this and other bills of it's type without having a shortlist of curated, controlled people creating online content. That's literally the point, keeping people from interesting with information they deem unsavory.

That said, it is impossible to enforce unless they want to set up the great firewall of america.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

basically only Right wing propaganda is allowed.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

such as reddit, we already know they have been doing it at the behest of the gop since '16

[–] j0ester@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Free speech? What are those?