Trump disbands DHHS
No more poverty!
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I'm kind of more shocked at $16,000 a year is considered above poverty.
The poverty line was historically measured simply by multiplying the USDA's cheapest food plan for a household to buy groceries with adequate nutrition, and multiplying by 3.
Then, in the intervening 6 decades or so, food inflation has gone up significantly slower than housing inflation, to where that simple assumption of "barely enough to eat, times 3" began systematically understating actual poverty.
Today, feeding the reference family of 4 (2 adults 20-50, 1 kid aged 6-8, 1 aged 9-11) costs $996.20 per month (as of March 2025). That's basically $12,000 per year, so the poverty line for a family of 4 is $32,150 (updated every January with September data).
So cost of rent/mortgage is excluded.
Then the state provides a shelter, right?
You can maybe wait three + years for a Section 8 voucher!
If applying for that is anything like applying for unemployment, good luck lol.
In some places, that's on a lottery system.
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That’s been a poverty wage for at least 15 years.
Yeah, the “$15 minimum wage” conversation has been going on for so long that the actual number adjusted for inflation would be well into the mid $20 range. IIRC, it would currently land somewhere around $24.75 per hour.
And if the idea of a $24.75 minimum wage makes you balk, maybe you should consider how little you’re being paid for the work you do, when compared to what the minimum wage used to cover. It used to cover enough for a single full time worker to afford housing, utilities, food, and a car. If you’re struggling to do that and you’re making in the mid $20’s, then congrats you know how it felt to be paid minimum wage when it was introduced.
Kill all rich people.
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$15k a year??? That wouldn’t even cover my food let alone a shitty hotel room. Anything below $50k as a single earner is deep in poverty.
Yes, it sounds bad. But there is a bright side, too! The week has 168 hours, which means if you work four full time jobs, you can make $60k a year and you still get eight hours of sleep! /s
those are some top-tier grustle tips
IIRC, the federal poverty level doesn’t account for housing, transport, utilities, etc… It basically only accounts for food. And even then, it only accounts for the cheapest of the cheap food; You’d basically be eating white rice and instant ramen every day.
What absolute dumbass thought that would be a good metric to track?
the goal was to enforce poverty, not to resolve it. this is the system working exactly as intended
Manipulative liars/vampires who don’t think of poor people are deserving of any kindness or luxury.
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Builds strong deficiencies
Dont forget to thank Mr. MSG
For an individual supporting themselves. For anyone with a family, it's been a poverty wage for a very long time. Spoiler, more than a third of minimum wage earners have children to support.
Um? I'm making more than twice that and I can just barely afford rent, food, etc. I'd hesitate to call anything below $15/hr even remotely livable, and that's out in the sticks.
Poverty wage is not anywhere near a liveable wage. It's the federal definition for "too poor to survive without assistance." A living wage is enough to support yourself, a family, and leaves enough to find personal fulfillment. That's at least two to three times the poverty wage, depending on where you live and how many dependents you have.
FDR intended for the minimum wage to be a living wage, not a poverty wage. The oligarchs that run America prefer a minimum wage be below a poverty wage, because poor people are easier to exploit.
it gets darker and more insidious than that. america's definition of poverty is unique unto ourselves. the rest of the world views poverty as a condition in which a person is unable to do all the human things humans do. poverty wages, everywhere else, is anyone not making a living wage. but we, in our incredible exceptionalism, defined our own definition of poverty, and then refuse to acknowledge that more and more people are slipping into it.
the key to understanding why we refuse to acknowledge this is because poverty is enforced. it is always enforced. the natural order of nature is for humans to care for eachother. the greedy parasites who control us though need us to be desperate enough to keep us from realizing we provide them with comforts we do not benefit from because we're just trying to scrape out a basic living from table scraps.
Ain't seen nothing yet, price adjustments after tariffs gonna make middle class in great depression queues.
Pretty sure that's the point of project 2025, so everyone is too poor and stuck to fight the dictatorship and no one else can get ahead forcing the them to be a cog in the machine for the 1% until they're dead
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." JFK
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Jokes on them.
More people who feel they have nothing to live for are more people who are willing to go to extreme measures to punish the ones who put them in that position.
But eggs'll be cheap, right?
CEOs read "minimum wage" and they think "maximum wage".
It's just a branding issue. /s
The solution is obviously to abolish HHS.
The criteria must be wrong because by these metrics half of Americans are below poverty!
by these metrics half of Americans are below poverty!
I mean yeah sure, if we just throw around a random percentage, the metrics are the problem.
President Felon will change the poverty threshold to $0.15 to prove everyone is doing excellent.