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    Microsoft secured my files! (lemmy.world)
    submitted 1 week ago by yesman@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    Back in January Microsoft encrypted all my hard drives without saying anything. I was playing around with a dual boot yesterday and somehow aggravated Secureboot. So my C: panicked and required a 40 character key to unlock.

    Your key is backed up to the Microsoft account associated with your install. Which is considerate to the hackers. (and saved me from a re-install) But if you've got an unactivated copy, local account, or don't know your M$ account credentials, your boned.

    Control Panel > System Security > Bitlocker Encryption.

    BTW, I was aware that M$ was doing this and even made fun of the effected users. Karma.

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    [–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 94 points 6 days ago (18 children)

    They desperately wanted to eliminate personal computers and replace them with dumb terminals running over the net.

    When the public rejected this idea

    THIS is their response. They are still insisting on total control of our computers.

    [–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 38 points 6 days ago (19 children)

    They desperately wanted to eliminate personal computers and replace them with dumb terminals running over the net.

    I don't know about that.

    Dumb terminal concept was more what Chromebook was doing.

    Microsoft is doing something even stupider.

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    [–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago (12 children)

    Not to mention DRM. They want to own your computer and prevent any kind of modification so that movie producers give them money.

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    [–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago

    Just wait until you learn about Intel's Management Engine...

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    [–] andybytes@programming.dev 25 points 5 days ago

    Windows is the virus.

    [–] yaroto98@lemmy.org 78 points 6 days ago (8 children)

    Just checked my wife's laptop. Local account, secure boot off, windows 10. It had a message telling me to setup a microsoft account to 'finish encrypting the device'. I clicked turn off, and it's currently decrypting the hard drive. Blech.

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    [–] nargis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

    Bit late to this thread but I know a few commands that might help if you're stuck:

    manage-bde -off C: (or any other drive) This decrypts the volume and turns off bitlocker

    manage-bde -lock/unlock

    manage-bde -protectors -get C: (or any other drive) This displays your 48-digit key. I suggest you store it somewhere, just to be safe.

    Get-BitlockerVolume reveals which of your partitions are encrypted with Bitlocker.

    Disclaimer: I am not a terminal nerd, I just had similar problems years ago and went down the rabbit hole, used these commands and turned off bitlocker permanently. I don't use windows anymore, but when I did, it didn't cause any problems with bitlocker after this. If you're concerned about your un-encrypted hard drives, consider using Veracrypt (carefully!) or similar open source encryption software.

    [–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago

    [–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Fuck Microsoft.

    I remember back in highschool a buddy encrypted his harddrive, didn't backup his key. He Lost ALOT when I upgraded his comp

    [–] Aganim@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

    But how is that relevant to your 'Fuck Microsoft' if he knowingly encrypted his device, which is how you make it sound?

    I've enabled FDE on one of my Linux devices, I've already had to mount the filesystem in a rescue environment once because a failed update caused the system to be unable to boot. I would also have been hosed if I had lost the encryption key. Ok not really, because that's what backups are for, but you hopefully get the point.

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    [–] scheep@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago

    This happened to me once and I had to redo my coursework over the weekend...now I use Fedora :D

    [–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 26 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I just installed Manjaro on my daily driver over the weekend. My entire steam library just works. My dev tools all work(better) on Linux, and free office is nice and familiar. Fuck widows.

    [–] daftpuggi@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago

    Give them time to mourn first, but then fuck widows :D

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    [–] carrion0409@lemm.ee 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I just leave secure boot/bitlocker off when it comes to my home system. It wasnt something I "needed" when I was dual booting windows 10 and it's not something I'm gonna enable now that I'm using 11.

    [–] thomasloven@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    It’s not ”leaving bitlocker off”, though. It’s ”be aware about it and turn bitlocker off manually” since it’s enabled by default in the latest updates.

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    [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    I tried having it on my new laptop for a bit. It took like a week for Windows to kill the secure boot key for my Linux partition. Even after I disabled secure boot I couldn't get it to boot up so I had to reinstall. Just left it turned off afterwards.

    [–] carrion0409@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

    Its just not worth the trouble for a home pc imo

    [–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

    I've actually had this occur before to a machine I specifically disabled the tpm on so that it wouldn't happen (it was an account less frozen kiosk). I was fuming the entire time I spent rebuilding it.

    [–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

    This has been happening to people randomly for years. Ysed to get calls about it all the time, and that was pre-covid

    [–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Always have backups! Doesnt matter what OS you use, stuff will break eventually.

    I prefer bootable full system images to my NAS for easy restores, and online file backups, both running daily.

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    [–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (6 children)

    I can't even adjust bitlocker settings on my laptop's windows 11 home Installation...

    [–] limerod@reddthat.com 9 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    Yeah, you need Windows 11 Pro, Enterprise, or Education edition.

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    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 10 points 6 days ago

    Regarding your last sentence, something similar happened to me with OneDrive. I mocked people thinking surely they enabled something by mistake. Nope. The defaults and general behavior are just that wacky. Glad I'm off Microsoft now.

    [–] stonedtemplepilot@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    I mean you can write your Bitlocker key down and store it safely or put it somewhere else safe.. Lol

    [–] Sydnxt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 days ago

    The main problem here is Bitlocker is being turned on by default on fresh 24H2 installs, most people that don't know how to bypass the online account requirement are making burner Microsoft accounts (Boomers), therefore do not know the credentials in 3-4 years when their computer needs a repair.

    [–] Mwa@lemm.ee 16 points 6 days ago (5 children)

    Why cant windows copy luks and let you choose your own password

    [–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    because people will set hunter2 and be done with it.

    [–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    How did you get my password?

    [–] Achsonaja@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

    All I see is *******. What do you see?

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    [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

    I've been preaching about this for a while. Many modern systems are getting bitlocker turned on by default.

    If your system gets messed up, or simply won't start because of some security vendors bad update, goodbye data. You need the recovery key, and if you don't have it, you'll never see your bits the the correct order again.

    [–] Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (5 children)

    I got into coding in the last few days. I have a project. Bumping into this while I'm trying to learn this shit? Fuck me. You know, we could just stop using money

    [–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 7 points 5 days ago

    I can't connect what you are saying into a coherent thread

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    [–] DimFisher@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (8 children)

    I still don't understand why there is no other mainstream os in competition alongside MS except IOs, I wouldn't call Linux mainstream of course, don't you think that's a bit weird?!

    [–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago (8 children)

    Microsoft is almost good as dead. These days, Linux takes just as much maintenance as XP used to. They've got maybe 5 years left until laptops start shipping with alternatives to Windows. My bet is it's going to be SteamOS.

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