I am so sick of his bullshit. Every one of his voters should be pushed to the margins of society.
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Can you explaine how this is not a positive for the middle lower class? I may be missing something here, but over all it seams like it would be a good thing?
Do you think this is actually going to lead to anything? Under what circumstances do you imagine the president is vested with the power to price consumer goods? What do you think is actually going to happen here? With one stroke of his fucking sharpie people will have affordable drugs???
How could you - how could anyone - think he works for the average American?
Idk, that is why I'm asking. Best way to learn is to have a civil discussion and to learn other people's views.
I will take you at face value.
This is complete bullshit, amounting to absolutely nothing. The companies that profit from selling us drugs will not just sit by idly while their profits dwindle. They spend billions of dollars on lawyers (to say nothing of buying politicians) and they will challenge the EO in court. It is plainly above and beyond the powers granted to the Executive in Article 2. They will win. This is nothing more than the worthless, fevered, narcissistic daydream of a grandiose cunt who cares not one whit for the common man.
FUCK, I can’t believe this is our fucking reality.
It seems like you want to be angry at Trump no matter what he does without actually understanding what the actual problem is and when someone asks you to explain you treat them with hostility. So here is what is dangerous about Trumps Pharma tariffs (so you can actually articulate your rage). The order proposes that the US be given Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status – meaning drug companies would be asked to match the lowest price for a drug abroad when selling to US consumers. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trumps-order-on-us-drug-prices-whats-in-it-and-will-it-work/ar-AA1EDZ1S The thorn in that rose is that Big Pharma will simply raise their prices abroad to compensate for the loss of profit in America - essentially f^cking over every other nation on earth who will now have to pay more for life saving drugs, that includes nations who are so poor that drugs are heavily subsidized just so people don't die in the thousands. There will now epidemics because there will be no one who can afford basic medicine. In the end Covid19 may end up being a holiday compared to what we might yet see.
Your condescension is what I'd expect from a MAGAt. The problem I have with this is that it is utter showmanship horseshit. Take your sanctimony off to someone else (please interpret that as the euphemism it is).
Wow if you actually put down the pipe you would realize I was helping you and no, I'm not a Trump supporter. I tried to help you by giving you an actual argument against Trumps foolish executive order instead of your 'f^ck you' copy/paste replies. I guess it's easier to be angry at everyone who you don't like rather than actually express what makes you angry.
So executive orders are more just instructions? They don't hold any real power, or is it just more the fact that it can be openly fought by anyone? Guessing I don't fully understand how the executive order system works.
Executive orders hold as long as they aren’t overturned by one of the other 2 branches of govt. Congress can pass a law that’s contrary an EO and the prez can’t do shit (assuming the Senate has a veto-proof majority, 67 votes). The courts can also stay or overturn EOs if they’re found to be unconstitutional or in violation of laws. The next Prez can completely upend any standing EOs.
Kk, well with that info, yes I would have to agree. This feels like a very empty gesture.
I don't think we can say this will be a positive for the middle class because there's absolutely no actual plan for implementation here
You think drugs should cost more for Americans?
I think fucking congress should pass bills instead of a fucking useless traitor cunt showman bullshitting us.
We didn't vote for Kamala. So no clue who you think is a traitor.
"I will be instituting a MOST FAVORED NATION’S POLICY whereby the United States will pay the same price as the Nation that pays the lowest price anywhere in the World," Trump said. "Our Country will finally be treated fairly, and our citizens Healthcare Costs will be reduced by numbers never even thought of before. Additionally, on top of everything else, the United States will save TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS."
The president doesn't have the power to unilaterally dictate pharmaceutical prices. The federal government has some power to set the prices paid by Medicare/Medicaid recipients, but let's be very clear that reform in this regard has been blocked by Republicans for decades. When the Biden Admin did it for just a handful of medications, the screeching was deafening.
Anyway, my point is that as usual, this is bluster with no actual implementable policy behind it
But... but... This was the half-assed master plan to replace Obamacare that they finally thought of! It'll definitely work! ... right?
Someone will have to fight it in court. Presidents have done this for a very long time but I do agree. It isn’t a power they have but nobody challenges it
"Presidents have done this for a long time?" Name one and what they did
Biden, Trump, obama,
And when did Biden and Obama try to unilaterally and unconstitutionally dictate pharmaceutical prices
Google is your friend. You don’t remember Biden touting insulin prices ?
Biden had CMS (The Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services) negotiate some drug prices with pharmaceutical companies on behalf of Medicare recipients. This is entirely legal, because the federal government is the payer for people with Medicare. Pharmaceutical companies want Medicare to keep covering their drugs, so they're willing to come to the table. Again, this is for Medicare only.
What's harebrained, blatantly not legal, and unimplementable is, "I hereby order all drug prices in the US to be the lowest in the world!"
Google is your friend
This is rich, coming from someone actively demonstrating they lack a basic understanding of what Biden did despite providing a link to it
It isn't my job to link everything for you. People don't typically ask to be cited common knowledge.
It sounds like the government is negotiating pharmaceutical prices for all Americans. Can they do other aspects of the healthcare system too or is that socialized healthcare?
They could and it has nothing to do with socialized healthcare. Peopel throw around the word socialism as if it doesn't have a meaning.