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As simple as possible to summarize the best way you can, first, please. Feel free to expand after, or just say whatever you want lol. Honest question.

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[–] wolfrasin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago
[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

TLDR; I'm vehemently agnostic.

I believe that if there is a "God" entity, that it is incomprehensible and not worth attempting to understand.

I also don't believe in an anthropocentric "God", in that "God" doesn't inherently value nor not value humans as somehow special nor damned. I also don't believe "God" cares nor doesn't care about humans or existence.

I also don't believe in inherent meaning, nor that there is some form of divine justice. Those are human lenses through which we interpret the world, and are unlikely to apply (at least in the same way as a human) to the supposed viewpoint of an eternal omniscient omnipotent entity that created the universe and will supposedly one day close the door on time and its own existence.

In short, I'm one bleak motherfucker and it doesn't matter if "God" exists or not. Either way, I don't get to survive death. What is eternal about me is inherently not a part of me. It is mortality, true mortality, mortality of the consciousness and the ego and the individual that defines the individual. When that dies, "God” or not, either way there is no individual to somehow surpass death.

[–] noughtnaut@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Leave me be, I'm agnostic. Bother me with religious nonsense and see the atheist come out and ruin your day.

[–] palmtrees2309@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dont know. I am conflicted about it. If god exists why would he create all the suffering and pain? If he doesnt, all the world is just a probability game.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

If God exist then why bad thing happen?

The Christian paradigm answers this.

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't believe gods exist.

I know the Abrahamic god doesn't exist.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because it has conflicting attributes.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Something tells me you are doing armchair exegesis. Give me an example.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am genuinely curious what these conflicting attributes are in your view.

But also, from a dialectical lens, contradiction exists in all things in our own observable reality, from the lowest levels of the concept of movement to the highest levels of the organization of human society. Why would a seeming contradiction be proof that God cannot exist?

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (9 children)

That's the nature of a contradiction. 2 or more mutually exclusive attributes can't exist together.

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[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. I believe in Stephen Fry.

He’s pretty close!

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