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As I'm currently doing a re-wire, it's a great opportunity for me to put some metering in the house.
I'm single-phase, but I plan to monitor multiple sections of the house, which are each wired for 100A independently.

I'm currently eyeing up either the Shelly Pro 3EM – 120A or the 50A.
As it will fit nicely in the consumer unit, and supports Ethernet.

I previously looked at the Aeotec clamp devices, but they seem to be difficult to find with multiple 100A connectors.

Emporia Vue was also a consideration, but I'm always a little hesitant to buy products that require custom firmware to even work properly, when others are available. And I'd also like to avoid using 2.4Ghz wifi for connectivity.

I'd love to hear any experiences people have had with similar devices, good or bad. And how the integration with HA went.

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[–] thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

I use Shelly EMs and EM Pros and they are excellent. My favourite feature is that they work on non-networked firewalled VLANs and don’t need the internet to work.

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm using off-the shelf CT-clamps with an ESP. Obviously it's a fair amount more work, but it's cheaper than a commercial solution, fully offline and no subscriptions, you know exactly what you are getting, and you can build a solution that is just the right size for your application, and infinitely modifiable if your needs change.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I think one day, I might go with something like that.
But admitting my own time limitations: It would probably sit in a drawer until I got around to it, joining the RGBW strip and similar ESP I bought a few years ago!

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 1 points 54 minutes ago

I bought one last year and and that's exactly what happened. It's in a box. I'd love to install it, but have to build a little external box because it did t quite fit.

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I have the Shelly Pro 3EM 120A and I have nothing but good things to say about it, installation is easy if you know what you're doing, integration with HA was trivial and it's very customizable. Before purchasing it I was worried about the update frequency of the values, but I was happy to see that it updates about a couple times per second, which is great. I'm happy to answer any questions you might have!

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, brilliant. In that case, I may have the confirmation to make the order.

It's just a shame the 120A is so much more expensive! £70 vs £120.
As there is a low chance I'll be pulling more than 50A on a circuit, but I know it'll 100% happen one day if I cheap out!

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah the bigger toroids are quite expensive, you can always buy just the toroids by themselves later on though, I think Shelly even sells them separately

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Second question actually; How did you find the installation?
I'll probably get an electrician to fit, but if there are any gotchas it'd be good to know before I instruct.

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

My dad is an electrician so he did it for me, from what he told me it was pretty straightforward. The easiest thing to mess up is the orientation of the toroids, which is easy to notice because the values will be negative. The 120A toroids are also kinda bulky, if your panel is on the small side it might be a bit difficult getting them in there.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They only seem to sell the 50s separately, which is a shame. £50 worth of calibrated iron, hooray (!).

[–] db_geek@norden.social 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

@GreatAlbatross Unfortunately I can't say anything about the given Shelly clamp meter.
But I'm using several of Shelly Plus Plug devices in german version.
https://shellystore.co.uk/product/shelly-plus-plug-uk/

I'm a big fan of Shelly, because it can be configured and used completely without sending data to the cloud.
The integration in Home Assistant is very good and my data is only local at my self hosted Home Assistant instance.

A power diagram with maximal 800W on left axis. The time axis goes from 12:00 to 13:45. Several coloured graphs with spikes are shown. In the middle a specific point from 23.05.2025 at 12:41 is choosen and shows power consumption for four devices at this point from 0 W to 109,5 W.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 1 points 7 hours ago

Appreciate the response.
It's good to get some feedback on the integration.
I also currently use some (cheap) zigbee plug monitors, which I might replace with these down the line, thanks!

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

This is something I’ve looked into in the past as well and with about 35 circuits to monitor, the Vue seems like a good one and done solution except it’s way too small, AND there’s mucking about with firmware which I’m none too excited about. I’m waiting for something better.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Shelly, if you're listening: Smart RCBOs would be interesting to explore.
As would a product that can handle, say, 16 clamps, and you buy the clamps separately.