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[–] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There’s a substantial difference between intolerance and oppression.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What are the most important differences?

[–] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oppression implies that there is an oppressor with some sort of power or control over the other party.

Intolerance is being unwilling to accept something.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So are you suggesting fascists and fascist movements should not be restrained via group with power and control over them but people just not accepting them is fine?

[–] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No. I’m suggesting that just because a person is intolerant doesn’t mean that they’re oppressive.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

All oppression is intolerant, not all intolerance is oppressive.

[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you sure we can't just defeat them with our words? Maybe we will get more people on our side by putting forth strong arguments 🤡

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Have you tried changing your avatar or interpretative dance?
The hardcore ruthless tactics of the brave American lib freedomfighters.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The first statement implies that fascists are deserving of equal rights as everyone else. This don't the case, though, because what they want is the destruction of other people's rights.

Fascists don't play by the rules, because they don't think they apply to them or they are inconvenient. If they rules don't apply to you then they don't apply to you. Can't have it both ways.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everyone should have the same rights and the same responsibilities. It should be anyones responsibility to not become a fascist. Fascists are not a different species that want evil and destruction. People can stop becoming fascists if the alternative is punishment

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

And when they decide to not be a fascist anymore, they get their rights back. Easy as.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

"play by the rules" is exactly what they do, until they get in power and get rid of them.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

tolerance is a contract not a gift, you have to sign it first to receive the benefits.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Everyone deserves exactly as much tolerance as they're willing to give to others. No more, no less. If someone is hateful to you, no point in wasting your time trying to be nice to them. "I'll be nice to the nazi maybe that'll change them" has never worked, not once.

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Hopefully every liberal will remember people being disappeared off the streets in broad daylight by fascist thugs in ski masks next time an actual Nazi complains about their free speech being taken away, right? Right? No? They will be the first ones on the scene voraciously fellating the Nazi? ok.

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Violence to stop violence seems ok, if it's in a situation where it would work.

Though, nowadays there are some who throw around the word fascist, maybe to muddle the waters or channel hate against people they dislike. I've seen some people claim that the first major socialist experiment was fascist under their Georgian leader. That seems to be misdirection.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Even the moronic horseshoe theory is mainstream on lemmy.world.
I don't even bother with those people.