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[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I will remain neutral until the show airs. What the teaser shows of an actual story is pretty rudimentary, and it's really all about the execution of the plot.

On a lore level, I don't mind particularly that they changed up the sea devil designs, but twice in the same miniseries? I'm talking about the bug-eyed reptilian version we see briefly in the beginning, and of course Gugu Mbatha-Raw as Salt.

It seems a stretch to expect us to believe they're even the same species, unless the former turns out to be a war helmet, like with the Silurians in "The hungry earth". That was another big switch in appearance from classic Who, but that one paid off.

Also, plastering the POC lead in makeup and prosthetics to signify otherness? Ugh, I feel like this is going to be perceived in the future much like we cringe at black and yellowface.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's probably safe to assume that Gugu's character is unique in some way - a human hybrid or somesuch.

I do really like the redesign of the "traditional" Sea Devils. They look great.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 2 points 34 minutes ago

I was kinda partial to the last update in "Legend of the sea devils", even if the episode itself was shit. But I can't really argue against this revision since I've praised the Discovery Klingons in the past...

[–] askryan@startrek.website 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I have loved the RTD2 era, but this looks like a very gun, very by-the-numbers generic medium-gritty sci-fi with a very tired Romeo-&-Juliet trope. There must be some sort of twist to this, right? But I'm nervous that this is more Pete McTighe, who wrote the only bad episode of last series and seems only capable of accidentally writing ethically repulsive episodes with the worst dialogue you've ever heard.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 1 points 17 hours ago

I personally liked "Lucky Day", though neither of his Chibnall-era efforts are particuarly inspiring (it's also sometimes very difficult to separate the episodic writer from the showrunner). I'm really not familiar with his other work.

[–] Stormygeddon@startrek.website 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 2 points 23 hours ago

Nope - at the end of this video, RTD says "quite soon" twice, which could mean...a lot of things.

But I'm pretty sure we'll see it before 2025 is out, so there's that.