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I mean - it kind of is? I believe a company is allowed to ask another company if they’re eligible for rehire - and they record those things in their HR systems.
This is true. The other company can ask HR to consult the big book of grudges to determine if there are indeed grudges.
Given that person already found a new job, if they plan to keep it for long, the previous company's record won't be useful anymore.
They do keep records, but rarely share them.
If your prospective employer says that they didn't hire you because of what a previous employer said about you, and that previous employer doesn't have rock solid evidence, then you can sue for lost wages, defamation, and get a nice chunk of money.
When people called the store I was managing to get info on past employees, the only thing we would confirm was the time range they worked for us,
At least in my state they can only really confirm or deny that you worked for them.
That's only in an official capacity. People can say whatever they want if it is a backdoor reference.
Two weeks is bullshit. Not a law nor rule.
I had a job I loved, although it was owned by a complete asshole. I got a new job, at nearly double the pay. I agreed to give 2 weeks notice, even though it was going to cost me a lot of money, which I needed (this was my first good paying job, and I was broke).
Rather than understand that I was doing him a favor, my asshole boss decided to torture me for my final two weeks. I put up with it for a week, then told him I was done on Friday. I was essentially paying out of my pocket to give him 2 weeks, but I wasn't going to pay him to abuse me, so I just left him standing there with his mouth agape.
I took the weekend off, and started my cool new new job on Monday (and it was a cool job, one of the best I've ever had).
Two weeks is good practice especially as you move into more professional roles. Depending on the role additional notice might be preferred or even required since some roles in some businesses are critical enough to potentially impact business continuity if you leave unexpectedly
For a shitty retail job though? Give a few days notice so the schedule can be updated and leave it at that, barring other obligations
It's not your job to keep your morale high enough to not bail
I gave a month's notice at a job I was leaving. I was moving on, it wasn't a shit job but I was ready to move up and they weren't promoting me to the types of jobs I wanted. No hard feelings.
Until I have my month's notice. I had been there 3 years and assumed we would take a week or so to hire someone, then I could train them on the job the last 2 weeks. It sure would have helped me when I started.
I wish I'd giving 3 days. They had no interest in including me in the new hire process (this is a small business, only 2 other people above me, owner and accountant) and basically it felt like they were waiting on me to leave so they could bring in their new pick.
Now I did end up working for that company in the position I wanted part time for a couple years after that, so I guess just not showing up would have been way worse, but I found that time period incredibly stressful and still don't understand the motives.
I gave two weeks notice once, and fired on the spot. My manager claimed since I was quitting I probably do a shitty job the last two weeks so why keep me around.
So I dont give notice no more no matter the job.
In my area there is an actual law regulating this. You can leave earlier, but you won't get payment for the last period if you do so, unless your employer agrees to pay it out anyway.
They wouldn't have given him 2 weeks if he was fired.
Fuck them
They're not wrong though, assuming they're in the UK and/or their contract agrees a minimum of two weeks notice, as is standard.
This applies both ways. I expect this employee would be angry if their employer breached their contract to sack them immediately without this notice, but if the employee breaches those same terms of their agreed contract that's....okay? No.
Regardless of their feelings, it's very unprofessional, petty even, and depending on how litigious and unhappy with them their employer is, not a very smart idea.
There are many edge cases where things must be looked at differently of course (someone resigning over harassment at work would not wish to remain there for a fortnight serving their notice for example), but this must be discussed and agreed upon, because again, it deviates from the legally binding contractual agreement they both signed.
This employee, regardless of any legitimate grievances, in this communication is unprofessional, petty, and frankly childish.
While I don't know the story behind their falling out, I suspect the employer will be glad to see them go. I wouldn't want them working for me, or even work with them as a colleague. They sound awful.
OTOH, if this is in the US, we are almost entirely at-will when it comes to employment; we can be terminated at any time, for something as petty as the boss not liking our socks, no heads-up required.
Here the two weeks notice is considered a courtesy, and sadly fewer and fewer businesses are proving worthy of that courtesy. It seems from the post title that this company did not deserve much respect at all.
In the Netherlands, by law there is a minimum of one month's notice. If the employers fire you, the notice time is doubled. So if a company would require three months notice it means you can still work there for 6 more months after you're fired.
There's only one state in the U.S., and since it's an iPhone, sorry, kind of assuming you're in the States, that that's true in.
In other words they can kick rocks. Assholes wanted at-will employment. They got at-will employment.
Where does the iPhone -> US connection come from?
iPhones are much more popular in the US (around 55% market share) than in the rest of the world (around 25% market share).
I have attempted the 2 week's notice 3 times. Only 1 of which have I actually made it to the end. First job in HS, I had no bad blood, but it was a union shop that paid like .10 over min wage. When the union tried to shake me down for dues (of which they wanted like 2 check's worth of money since I was the Lowest level and only working part time) I told them no thank you, put in 2 weeks notice, worked til the end.
2nd job it was the end of high school, 2 weeks notice was in bc off to college. The company fires my boss, then I tell his replacement I need x and y days off next week for grad night/ graduation related activities. I show up the next day and it's a different guy working who made the schedule without talking to anyone apparently. I told him I had asked the other lady for X and Y days off. "Well, right now you're scheduled to work, if you want those days off, you're going to need to get someone to cover your shift."
I'm good chief, I'll take my last check please.
The other one I had the new job desperately needing help and wanting me to start ASAP, so I worked it out where I was going to grind a 60+ hr week where I'd train in the AM at the new job and take a late shift at the old job. The 2nd day I was burnt out asf. I walk into the old job at 6 pm after grinding 8 hrs at the new job to a severely understaffed store and I was supposed to close down with the worst fellow supervisor we had. She was a very sweet older lady, but she was just slow at absolutely everything she did. I knew that closing with her while short a cashier and a bagger meant I'd be doing double/ triple duty that night and getting out an hour later than usual. I just said fuck this shit and bounced. I made up some sob story about personal issues going on to not completely burn that bridge and actually kept eligibility for rehire, but I was fucking done with that place.
“You’re going to need to get someone to cover your shift.”
Bro, you’re the manager in charge of the schedule — sounds like a you problem.