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It's something I've seen thrown at women a fair bit. Feminazi, stripping men's rights, feminism has gone too far blah blah. Has anyone ever accused you of it? And any women said this to you?

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[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

So as someone who thinks they're real funny, that's a tad bid misandrist innit? /s

Not sure if I do actually belong here or not but I hate how misogynistic some people are when they don't think about it. It makes me a bit uncomfortable to be around them.

I have however heard some things that I would consider a bit extreme like making femicide recieve worse punishments than regular homicide.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 months ago (7 children)

femicide worse penalties than geberal homocide

So, devils advocate here, obviously laws are bullshit and will never protect the weak from the strong, and punishment doesn't actually fix anything except inadequate sexual arousal.

But.

If my younger brother murders me during an inheritance dispute so he can inherit, thats homocide of someone who happens to be a woman

If my brother murders me because im a slut who sullied the family name by having sex with a consenting adult without a cosplayer's permission, or for being an uppity bitch, etc, that would be femicide

Now, at least hypothetically, the motivation of the person who did the crime is part of defining what crime it is. This principle shows up in a lot of legal s]stems, but in the anglosphere is the distinction between manslaughter murder and terrorism, which can all, hypothetically, be the same act but differ based on how white your skin is and how rich you are.

So punishing femicide worse would omly be a category of hate crime, a subcategory of what used to be called terrorism before the word contorted to its current 21st century definition.

On a related note: men arent people, have you ever talked to one? They're like terrible little goblin creatures. Heterosexuality is a kind of beastiality, and im not sure it's one of the excusable ones where it's weird and gross but the animal clearly has enough understanding of the circumstances to consent.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well if you're correct (which English sources seem to back up) then both I and a female friend of mine misunderstood that intention. When looking it up the German Wikipedia (since the source we saw was German) says that all murders targeting women can be included in the term. I'm guessing that it was just badly translated from English to German and then I made the mistake translating it back the same way.

The ideal solution then would be to properly call out the problem (hate crimes not being recognized as such/being properly punished) rather than trying to target a specific kind (though it was in a feminist context so it is sort of fair).

Also as far as I know killing somebody would just be a life sentence as long as it was planned anyway so it probably wouldn't be relevant anyway.

I'm going to guess that your last paragraph was a joke because there are actually some nice men that I know but basic human decency does seem a lot more common among everybody else.

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[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That used to be me. I very nearly fell down the blackpill incel hole, long before those were terms, back when friendzone memes were all the rage. Two things really stopped that--one was that I was self aware and recognized it was a me problem, not a world problem, and the second was more or less a friend turning me into a brony (it was new at the time and was positivity that I really needed). In the end, learning to think critically and not feast on a diet of easy hate is the reason I'm not a complete dumpster fire excuse for a human being. Hate and anger are junk food for the mind, and while there's nothing wrong with hating something or being angry, it's easy to let them rule you and turn you into an angry, hateful person.

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