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It’s Official: With “Vermin,” Trump Is Now Using Straight-up Nazi Talk He’s telling us what he will do to his political enemies if he’s president again. Is anyone listening?

I feel pretty safe in saying that we can now stop giving him the benefit of that particular doubt. His use—twice; once on social media, and then repeated in a speech—of the word “vermin” to describe his political enemies cannot be an accident. That’s an unusual word choice. It’s not a smear that one just grabs out of the air. And it appears in history chiefly in one context, and one context only.

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[-] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 260 points 1 year ago

Trump Is Now Using Straight-up Nazi Talk

So, the situation remains unchanged.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 145 points 1 year ago

I remember pointing out that trump was using Nazi rhetoric during his ‘16 campaign.

The number of people that argued with me about how it was an exaggeration. Makes me want to scream.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Anyone who says he wasn't is willfully ignorant so they don't have to admit they support facism, or unironically ignorant and falling victim to what facism does best: take advantage of the uneducated

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[-] Chuymatt@artemis.camp 33 points 1 year ago

I feel we are experiencing Cassandra Syndrome.

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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 173 points 1 year ago

He's been using Nazi talk since day one. "Fake news" is the most glaring example, which is just the most recent take on Lügenpresse.

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[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 125 points 1 year ago

I'm sure Trump's spokesman will walk back the Nazi talk.... Oh, wait:

Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung said of anyone who compares Trump to Hitler or Mussolini that, "their entire existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House"

So they're just doubling down on the Nazi then.

[-] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Do not call me a Nazi. The next person to call me a Nazi is the first one I'm throwing in the camp.

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[-] Treczoks@lemm.ee 102 points 1 year ago

Anyone still unclear to the concept? This is his play book, his manual. Nothing else. If you don't recognize it, shame on you and your history teacher.

[-] kn33@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago

In 1923, Hitler and his supporters attempted a coup in Bavaria. This seminal event was later called the Beer Hall Putsch. Upon its failure, Hitler escaped, only to be subsequently arrested and put on trial. The trial proved to be a blessing in disguise for Hitler, as it garnered him national fame. Hitler was sentenced to five years in prison, but he would only serve eight months. During this time, Hitler wrote Mein Kampf, which became the vade mecum of National Socialism. Once released, Hitler switched tactics, opting to instead seize power through legal and democratic means.

So... fuck...

[-] Treczoks@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

Yep. There was something about people who don't know history are bound to repeat it's mistakes.

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[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

I mean, the only book he's known to possess is one with Hitler's speeches.

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[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 90 points 1 year ago

He also said upon reelection that he'd oust government officials not loyal to him and immediately begin deporting mass waves of people, including those living in the US legally.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-policies-agenda-election-2024-second-term-d656d8f08629a8da14a65c4075545e0f

[-] Hairyblue@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago

Trump doesn't care about government employees defending the constitution, he wants government employees loyal to HIM. If Trump had enough people like this last time the United States democracy would be over.

Stop voting for Republicans. They are un-American and don't believe in our democracy.

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[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 88 points 1 year ago

His entire existence is a Nazi dog whistle.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Sure, but it's worth noting that it's now just a regular whistle.

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[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 85 points 1 year ago

Is anyone listening?

Yes, his base is, and they love it.

That's exactly it, and this is also why the media CONSTANTLY "discovering" that Trump is a Nazi is just signal boosting his campaign content.

Maybe in another eight years they will move on from "dae notice that Trump is a racist fascist Nazi?" And instead start saying "don't vote for racist fascist Nazis, do this instead."

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 79 points 1 year ago
[-] Arsenal4ever@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

I saw the Guardian report that "Biden campaign accuses Trump of parroting Hitler"

How about, Trump parrots Hitler? Why this Biden campaign accuses Trump of.

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

the media are a bunch of pussies hedging their bets with the audience, also willing to skew anything to cause controversy as long as it doesn't come back to bite them. Sensationalism sells.

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[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

People have been talking about the unindicted traitor since J6 and the media pretends Nazis hushing up means no one is talking about it. Anyone still pretending he's a legitimate candidate for office has their head up their ass.

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[-] greenmarty@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

The guy is facing like dozens of criminal charges. How can someone like that run for presidency in the first place?

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

Innocent until proven guilty. It's important to remember that.

However, I'd argue the President of the United States should be held to a higher standard than merely "not convicted."

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Hasn't he now said things in open court multiple times that would be taken as direct admissions coming from anyone else?

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[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

On the other end of the "things I support" spectrum, Eugene Debs kept running as a socialist for president even after he was put in jail (for a speech against the war)

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[-] Drusas@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago

Also reminiscent of the Rwandan genocide, when the slaughtered Hutu were called cockroaches.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/04/15/rwandan-who-called-tutsis-cockroaches-in-1992-gets-life-sentence/

[-] lemmus@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

He’ll be borrowing “human animals” from the Israeli government soon.

[-] elscallr@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Excuse me we already have a Vermin candidacy. Trump's gonna have to get something else.

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[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

The Democrats need to go off script and run a fresh face with thick skin and a mouth that can pick Trump apart.

Andrew Santino for president!

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 year ago

Every time I think it can't get worse… This fucker is a pro. I need to stop underestimating him. Speed-run to fascism in less than a decade.

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

The dominoes have been getting set up since the 70s. Just because it looks fast once they start getting knocked over doesn't mean there hasn't been extensive prep in getting there.

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[-] alternative_factor@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

I'm sure Trump has some kind of solution to this "vermin problem"! /s

[-] D_C@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

A concluding solution? Some kind of ultimate solution?
Crikey, surely there must be a 'final' way to say this...

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[-] xerazal@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 year ago
[-] jalda@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 year ago

with a white circle and a black cross

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

Since we all seem to know where this is headed, could we all chip in on a Kickstarter to get Trump a bunker, just to be sure that ball's rolling?

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[-] IronpigsWizard@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I opened this thread for Vermin Supreme comments.

I was not disappointed.

Thank you Lemmy, thank you.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago

And every single poll has him winning in 2024. Anything can happen in the next 12 months, but damn, how is support for him so high?

[-] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 46 points 1 year ago

One thing to keep in mind is to think about what kind of person actually participates in polls, and how that type of person will tend to lean politically (hint, old retired people)

That being said, fascism has happened continuously all throughout history for a reason. people like it when they think it's on "their side". A lot of conservative voters genuinely think America would be a better place if the democratic party was forcibly eliminated, and so they're not only fine with what Trump is saying, they're enthusiastic about it.

Combine the human tendency for populism with decades of conditioning from outlets like Fox News that conservatives are the only "real Americans" and that the "radical left" is hell bent on destroying their lives, raping babies, and turning their sons into daughters, and you have a large population of voters who genuinely think that democracy is bad if it means "the other side" gets to win.

Many Fascist movements start out with enthusiastic support from at least a large chunk of their population (Hitler was elected), by the time people realize that fascism only ever actually benefits those at the top, it's too late

[-] joker125@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Skewed polling.

This is your daily reminder to vote responsibly in 2024.

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[-] m3t00@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

his lawyers are reading him Mein Kampf during breaks. It's woking

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[-] RichCaffeineFlavor@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Imagine a president using such genocidal language

We better all vote for the non genocide president

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