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A Boring Dystopia

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Pretty sure they blocked me after I commented, so no screenshot.

The US essentially has no restrictions on what parents can do to their children, or pay to have done to them. These companies will show up at night, and take a child out of their bed at night. They explicitly tell parents not to warn the kid what will happen.

Imagine being woken up in the middle of the night, maybe forced to quickly pack, and then be loaded in a van. You have no idea where you are going or why or who or what is going on. You get taken to a facility which is basically a cult. You might be dumped out in rural Utah, with people that have zero training in wilderness safety, who might punish you by denying you food and water.

Children die in these places all the fucking time. There generally is no state or federal oversight of these facilities - so there aren’t really investigations. These places are havens for child predators.

When I was sexually abused at a similar facility and tried to report it - I was placed on heavy doses of antipsychotics in retaliation. They drugged me unconscious, and then punished me for sleeping during “class.” As an adult, I have involuntary shakes and movements associated with the medical malpractice enacted on me.

These places don’t get investigated, they don’t get shut down. I think Utah is one of the only states with any form of agency that watches over these places. Child protective services won’t go in, health care agencies won’t go in.

Children have no rights in the US. They are the property of their parents, to be disposed of as they wish. And fuckers like this agency are delighted to kidnap children that their parents can’t be assed to parent.

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[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Some states absolutely have cracked down on these types of places, as they were notoriously used for conversion therapy, among other terrible purposes. I definitely went to one of these places when I was a rebellious teenager, but I was fortunate in only having to go on the weekends during the day. I was also fortunate that the place had some oversight by my state, as I quickly learned that all their "punishments" could easily be defeated by simply refusing to participate (e.g. refusing to run laps, clean the gym floor with a toothbrush, etc). I lasted maybe 3 weekends there before they kicked me out of their "program."

That was 20+ years ago, and it still kind of blows my mind that those places exist. Therapy and supportive parents will "correct" rebellious behaviors 90+% of the time.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Zero surprise. IG regularly recommends/sponsors content that genocidal, pseudo-scientific, grifting, fascist, etc. I switched to Pixelfed for regular use.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 13 points 2 days ago

I had IG ahowing me ads for Arab "housekeeping" services where you could pick your "housekeeper". Just straight human trafficking and sex slavery brought to you by the fine folks out in Silicon Valley

[–] Liljekonvalj@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Get of facebook, instagram, TikTok. All of that. Want to stay in touch with your friends? Call them, text them.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t use it so much to stay in touch with my friends as a platform to argue with fascists, Nazis, and child abusers.

The kinds of parents who are going to be looking at these programs are probably on Facebook, and that’s the best place to reach them.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You're hurting your OWN mental health by doing this. You are not going to do anything to change those people.

You absolutely should stop doing that.

Meanwhile you're funding the engagement machine and directly padding their bottom line - arguing with dipshits on websites who profit from visit duration is exactly the psychological trap they encourage.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Wtf is Elan and why am I only hearing about this now?

Where's the Johbn Oliver episode about this? Still in production?

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

There's two episodes about this on Behind the Bastards. Fucking heartbreaking!

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

zuckerborg does need access to young minds.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Facebook has been advertising scams and bogus health products to me for a while now.

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well, if you are a minority no country is much better.

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