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On the night of 4 January, Luttig received a call from old friend Richard Cullen, who was working as a lawyer for Pence. Cullen explained that John Eastman, who had previously clerked for Luttig, was making the claim that Pence had the constitutional authority to stop certification of the election results.

Luttig told Cullen to advise Pence that this was flat wrong and further set out his views on Twitter: “The only responsibility and power of the Vice-President under the Constitution is to faithfully count the electoral college votes as they have been cast.”

On January 6 a mob of Trump supporters stormed the US Capitol and demanded that Pence be hanged, leaving a trail of death, destruction and excrement, but the results got certified all the same.

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[-] donuts@kbin.social 70 points 1 year ago

Sure they're "worried" but we've heard it all before, haven't we?

I really can't stand the number of Republicans at every level of government and discourse who are willing to mildly furrow their brows at Trump's shitty, fascistic authoritarian behavior, only to openly vote for him on election day. They really don't give a fuck what happens to the country and are just as likely as Trump to sell their soul to the highest bidder in order to grab as much power as possible.

[-] anthropomorphized@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Exactly. It's still team sports at the end of the day and they'll fall in line behind whatever wins. And Trump wins for them but sure, a few "adults in the room" make it more palatable

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Exactly. If you're I'm not happy that people in your party are copying Nazis, but refuse to denounce them, guess what? You're a Nazi also. Maybe you're a Nazi who is willing to oppose this in as mild a manner as possible that doesn't lose you political power, but that's not really a good distinction.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

your the following orders type nazi (not you i mean the individual you are hypothetically talking about) in that situation.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Testifying to the House of Representatives’ January 6 committee in an almost painfully slow and deliberate manner, Luttig recalled: “On that day, America finally came face to face with the raging war that it had been waging against itself for years. So blood-chilling was that day for our democracy, that America could not believe her eyes and she turned them away in both fear and shame.”

January sixth. Did the hearings slip over that bit? We all already know but but they surely didn’t let that but get hammered home.

[-] norske@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 1 year ago

I think I have tad bit of PTSD type symptoms after watching 1/6 steam live. I still am in shock of how few people understand or care what happened. It’s been like living in bizzaro world ever since 2017.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I sure do, and have said so on here more than once. Pictures of that day trigger me, videos are flat out unwatchable. Fear, rage, revenge lust, hate, I get all that.

Hell, I had to go walk around the house simply from typing that out.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I feel that to the core.

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Glad they are worried now.

[-] bappity@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

isn't it wonderful to see them fighting amongst themselves

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

I'll be honest, I'm too uneasy to enjoy it.

[-] Seraph@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe stop voting for him and his cronies then?

[-] autotldr 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Born in Tyler, Texas, he was assistant counsel to the president under the Republican Ronald Reagan, and clerked for then judge Antonin Scalia and the supreme court justice Warren Burger.

Cullen explained that John Eastman, who had previously clerked for Luttig, was making the claim that Pence had the constitutional authority to stop certification of the election results.

Luttig told Cullen to advise Pence that this was flat wrong and further set out his views on Twitter: “The only responsibility and power of the Vice-President under the Constitution is to faithfully count the electoral college votes as they have been cast.”

He is the clear frontrunner for the Republican nomination and, according to a recent New York Times and Siena College poll, leading Biden in five of the six most important battleground states.

Even some Trump critics, however, have argued that a legal ruling banning him from the race from the White House would enflame America’s divisions, whereas beating him at the ballot box would be more satisfying.

On other side of that split is the Federalist Society, a group that for decades has played a crucial role in grooming conservative judges – its prominent figures have included Leonard Leo, who advised Trump on his supreme court picks – but has said little about the threat posed by the former president to the constitutional order.


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