The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
I mean, in all reality, the thing to do is post up well away from anything with a decent scope and pop off a few. Move, repeat. Cops facing east? Be in the west. They pivot, someone in the east pops a few.
People on the ground aren't going to be in a gun fight with cops if they have any sense at all. You want long range shit with good muzzle velocity and a flat-ish trajectory.
The man just declared war on his constant. So don't fucking play.
Cool. Then I expect there to be plenty of bacon 6 feet under. If the police are going to kill Americans for no legal reason. I expect the Americans to do what Americans do and fight back.
Squeeeeel for me boy. Squeeeeeel!
Fuck that guy
It is good to know the rules of engagement
Can you imagine tabling this evidence in a civil case against police brutality. It would be a slam dunk if the US police were accountable like in civilised countries. The fact that they can say it out loud is indicative that the US is beyind fucked.
The US has gone from my let's organize an intervention for that fuck up friend list to their fucking poison and will drag the rest of us down with them if we don't keep our distance.
Real "occupying military presence" vibe off the guys who are supposed to Serve and Protect.
Beginning to wonder if cops aren't here to be my friend.
To think this is the country that wasted 24 years spreading freedom and democracy in the Middle East.
That is a weird understanding of the law. As any elementary school kid (outside the US) knows: Doesn't matter if the suspect stole a chewing gum or killed someone - they need to be stopped and arrested with the least harm possible.
Punishment is done by the courts. Not a police job.
That's one way to earn trust with the community I guess.
I keep reading about some stupid American saying this, that. ELI5, are there any normal people in America and if there are, why do they elect the stupid ones?
Yes there are normal people in America. I don't have time to explain gerrymandering and all the other fuckery Republicans use to get elected. And I know this question isn't real because I trust you're not so bigoted as to judge an entire people of a country as one
Is it time to post the home addresses of police yet?
The best time was a year ago, the 2nd best time is today
Sounds like it's time to start killing Florida cops
He is saying if you do anything to us it should be extremely violent. I'm sure he doesn't realize that.
It's not nice of him to say it like that, but that's pretty much what everyone knows cops are doing. I don't think anyone expects a different outcome.
One could argue a peaceful protest is different from a riot and cops shouldn't kill peaceful protesters, but there's always a chance they will.
If someone wants zero risk, they can only do short operations that don't need much media coverage to be effective and without a chance for the cops to be present or find them afterwards.
Weirdest shit was the time I was drunk with a cop buddy. With his cop friends. Who were also getting loose lips and telling stories and one of them checked them all and said. I wasn’t a cop. And not to talk about that stuff around me. Still bothers me. I never saw that friend again. But ya. Wild stuff.
I mean, I was half joking (taking into account the events in LA and seeing pictures/video of unarmed folk getting shot/assaulted) when I made this, but as usual Florida manages to meet and even exceed my satirical expectations…
To serve and protect... Ourselves.
piece of shit cowards.
Slogan "to hurt our own citizens for minor infractions while exercising they human rights we swore to protect and to serve rich assholes". But that's to long so "to hurt you and to serve rich assholes".
Enough is enough.
If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.
incredible what decades of fox propaganda has done to you guys.
... I don't think a democratic society can survive if this is the attitude of the law inforcement.
So I always though it would be neat if a few drones with laser pointers would orientate their lazers at any cops with particularly egregious records.
You know... Just so people can watch out for them.
