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Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an "unprecedented mass deployment" to Europe.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 305 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (19 children)

We just want fucking healthcare and affordable housing.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 130 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Sorry, best I can do is 2 trillion more for Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin and the like. They're desperate man, they haven't had a war for like 12 minutes, they need to be fed.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Zomg, Boeing planes being flown above enemy territory as surprise kamikazes (surprise to the pilots & crew).

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Best the turnip can do is a gold colored overpriced shit phone.

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[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 201 points 3 weeks ago (27 children)

God I hate Republicans.

Trump is absolute garbage on every single scale and stat, but it's the republican voters who got us here. Fuck every republican voter.

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[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 138 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

So much for keeping the US out of war..

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 109 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I can't believe he'd just... Lie to us like we're a court, Congress or himself or something.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

There has never been a decade in the entire history of the US in which it has not been at war. Come to think of it, there are probably like 10 years total, over 250, where there was not direct military action. I think. Have not recently checked the spreadsheet I keep.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 40 points 3 weeks ago

Something like 17 years total.

That means that for 222 out of 239 years – or 93% of the time – America has been at war. (We can quibble with the exact numbers, but the high percentage of time that America has been at war is clear and unmistakable.)

[–] Slowy@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] flandish@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And shareholders gotta profit.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 93 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

I didn't call it, but there's nothing quite like a war to distract the population from rampant decline at home.

This one is weird though, Iran is allied with Russia. Israel is allied with the US. Historically, this made sense.

But Trump and Putin playing war together would benefit both of them. It allows Putin to pull out of Ukraine because "Iran provided us much help and they need us now." And it allows Russia to maintain the war economy. It benefits Trump because he wants to play war.

Neither leader would have any actual skin in the game, it's just people's lives that would never contribute in another meaningful way to their power.

I don't like this. This is feeling more 1984 than 1984.

Edit: I like this even worse after I read the specifics of the KC-135R and KC-46A. Each can carry about 200,000 lbs of additional fuel. A single F-15E can hold 13,000 lbs internally. 30 KC-135Rs can refuel an entire F-15E 460 times. Israel has 7 KC-130H (60,000lbs) and 7 Boeing 707s (which is what the KC-135 was based on). This isn't just escalation, this is staging for invasion.

[–] Tillman@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The nice thing about Americans going to war is that it reduces the amount of dodge owners drag racing late at night. Silver linings.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 79 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

I’d just like to take this opportunity to say “fuck you” to all the service people flying these planes, planning the logistics, and otherwise operating at the behest of our sadistic federal government. Sure, the civilian leadership is ultimately at fault here, but y’all are humans with agency. I’m no longer carving out culpability from these goddamn people anymore. Fuck you terrorists. If we escalate yet another war, I’ll plan to spit on you when you arrive back broken and dead. Bring on the downvotes.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

It’s been decades that our military has been nothing but an imperialist boot. There is no moral ground to stand on in signing up. Work fast food.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

How hard is it to just not kill others?

Apparently really fucking hard for some.

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[–] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 77 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

This is basic dictator playbook, problems in domestic politics, start a war and problems change to foreign policy.

Putin has done this multiple times now, and Trump is following up.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

This is why I say Canada, Greenland, and Mexico are not safe. Added to the fact that all 3 countries have lots of resources the US needs.

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[–] kayky@thelemmy.club 69 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Time to waste hundreds of billions defending israel while our infrastructure crumbles and our citizens still go without healthcare.

Again.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 64 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

If the shit hits the fan, I want too see every single fucking MAGA voter at a US Army recruiting office signing up for 11 Bravo, Grunt Infantry.

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[–] eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz 56 points 3 weeks ago (19 children)

Anyone else get the feeling WW3 has already started but we just haven't realised it yet?

[–] match@pawb.social 48 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Imagine starting WW3 the weekend after 3% of your population came out to protest for other reasons. Your war weariness debuff will hit 100% in one turn.

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

It's not a world war if it's not from the Austrian region of Germany, otherwise it's just sparkling aggression.

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[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 53 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And again we see old incompetent white men starting another war.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A society goes to shit when old men start wars whose conflict they know they shall never fight in

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 3 weeks ago (24 children)

Wasn't Trump the peaceful dove?

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[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 43 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

Are people surprised? Republicans are war hawks even more so than the Libs.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

But only against countries that pose no threat to them i.e. they are chickenhawks. At least Biden could do the bare minimum to help Ukraine.

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They are jingoists, and jingoists are no different than schoolyard bullies who want to appear tough so they loudly proclaim how tough and big they are, which includes an occasional show of force against those they believe won't/can't defend themselves to reinforce their image of being the biggest Tough Guy™ around.

If they win, they win. If they lose, it's because they decided it wasn't worth their time and left willingly, not because they lost.

This country has always been stuck up its own ass.

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[–] sudo@programming.dev 41 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

This would have to be the most unpopular war in US history and yet I think everyone Trump has surrounded himself with is telling him to do it.

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[–] Netrunner@programming.dev 40 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Only idiots are excited about wars.

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[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Search "Altlantic Trident 25"

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 34 points 2 weeks ago

We need to fix the voting system. ALL pacs should be banned and campaign spending should be limited.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

The silver lining is that this will accelerate the decline of the US Empire which in turn will weaken Israel. Although this will be too late for the millions who have been or are still to be killed because of these psychopathic regimes.

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m bringing peace to the Middle East! The peace president! 🫲🍊🫱

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[–] wax@feddit.nu 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I wonder where we'd be today if Trump didn't pull out of the nuclear agreement with Iran. Might not have made a difference, who knows.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

Israel would have scratched their butt, then made up another reason to bomb them.

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[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Trump is after Iran's eggs, I guess. He promised the people of the US lower egg prices, he will get them from Iran.

How can people in the US be okay with this? Their quality of life has only decreased since Bush 2 started his wars of terror. A propagandized population driven to hate others and rally behind the president.

As unlikely as it may be, I hope the US loses quickly and decisively against Iran. Not in 20 years from now like in Afghanistan, but soon. I don't know what cards Iran has, what leverage they may have, but I hope they have something that enables them to inflict pain.

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[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 23 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

If anyone has good reasons to think otherwise, my anxiety needs something to believe in rn

[–] pheonixdown@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Surprise attack on Ukraine?

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 23 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

you are making it worse somehow (But I did laugh at the absurdity of it all, so thank you)

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

US is going to be bankrupt by the time he is done his second term.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, that's just on brand for him. If anything, he has shown a talent for bankrupcy.

[–] Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Sounds like the perfect time for Canada, Greenland/Denmark and Panama to launch their preemptive strike and ensure regime change and eliminate US WMD.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (17 children)

worry not. remember this is TACO Don... he'll chicken out again

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