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They offer a discount $150 for 3 years the $680 full price. 😞 it was bound to happen.

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[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 26 points 1 year ago

Typical Autodesk at work. First lure everyone and make the competition disappear as you can't beat free. Now that everyone is used to this program and the competition is behind because they didn't had a massive development budget, they can start to charge the insane prices

[-] Confuserated@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Hmmm… that page doesn’t mention the free “personal use” license for hobbyists.

https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal

^ This page still exists, and doesn’t mention it is going away, so maybe there is still hope.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The free personal portion was nerfed recently with only a limited of active designs available and other functions blocked or paywalled.

[-] IMALlama@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It limits you to 10 editable things at once and I think caps the number of components you can have. I haven't found either of these very restrictive to my use cases as a home user/hobbiest. I hope the personal portion isn't going away, will have to deal with migrating everything and learning new workflows 😭

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

10 project limit is in F360 for years now. Also who cares when you can save/open local files?

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[-] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It works great for me. You push one button to make something read-only or not. There are very few functions that I care about that are blocked. I use it for design and even CAM on a CNC router.

[-] BOFH666@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

And that probably won't be the end.

Very happy (and after 2 years usage still extremely unskilled) with FreeCad.

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

FreeCAD is pretty much useless, it still doesn't have basic modelling features like fillets, chamfers, etc.

[-] ScottE@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

That's not true. FreeCAD can do those things just fine. In fact, I have been able to do every single thing in FreeCAD that I used to do in Fusion360. There is a learning curve, but FreeCAD is extremely capable.

[-] anlumo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The problem with FreeCAD is that the UI is abysmal. There is tons of duplicate functionality in different benches, but if you start in one you might discover that it doesn’t have what you need and have to start over in another.

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[-] KingRandomGuy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This isn't true? Fillets and chamfers are available in the PartDesign workbench.

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[-] Jtlkybncv@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Is free as a good enough replacement? I like fusion for the sculpting mode as well. I would rather go to an open source replacement though

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

Freecad sucks. I use it exclusively and it sucks.

But it's the only foss option and the only Linux option.

[-] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

It's the reason I jumped on a cheap solidworks license, was fully intending to use it as my primary cad package but I just found it kinda clunky. To be super fair, I recall using it years ago and it's come a long way and I run it on my lab machine because Linux, but even not touching cad programs for almost a decade solidworks was just way easier to come back to.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Nah freecad still sucks. Change anything deeper and nothing recomputes correctly.

[-] KingRandomGuy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is a result of the topological naming problem. FreeCAD currently doesn't handle this well at all. There's been a lot of work on this front though - you can use realthunder's fork which should be a lot better in this regard. Alternatively, you can avoid creating features directly on top of other features, and instead make planes and reference them exclusively.

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[-] the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not sure about sculpting, but in terms of sketching I find it good but flawed.

Getting to grips with sketching and how you need to complete shapes, and using support lines is a learning curve.

However I find it quite rewarding and worth the time to learn.

[-] Jtlkybncv@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'm going to check it out again. It sounds more than decent for most things. Do you have any tutorials you learned from. The "learn fusion 360 in 30 days" is what I used to learn fusion

[-] the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Not any that I found useful sadly :D, FreeCAD is mostly used by Engineers, so finding a coherent easy to understand tutorial isn't easy. I got the gyst with trial and error and watching people use FreeCAD.

3 Lessions which makes FreeCAD flow make sense.

  1. In Part Design a Sketch Lives within a Body, so you create Body then Sketch

  1. The Sketches white lines needs to be complete, with no gaps. If you need to add structure (like adding a circle to a box), you can do so with construction geometry (blue lines)

  1. When a line turns green (or construction turns light blue, it's constrained. Meaning it won't move.

For me this was what allowed me to understand how to use FreeCAD well enough to replace Fusion. Everything from what I've used thus far, is based on this hierarchy and order of operation.

[-] Jtlkybncv@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you that helps

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[-] Jtlkybncv@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Freecad not free as. Autocorrect got me again

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

Ouch, makes me glad I stuck to open source options even if they had issues.

[-] cestvrai@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

My wife and I share a $1k Rhino license. Not so cheap but it is a perpetual license.

I don’t fuck with Autodesk, Adobe or ESRI.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Obligatory: Fuck Adobe

[-] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] cestvrai@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

CAD software which also has a pretty neat parametric design extension called Grasshopper.

Pretty sure they have a demo version if you’re really curious.

I used to work for a metal 3D printing company that used it as the primary CAD software.

[-] rambos@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I dream about FOSS CAD software at same level as commercial solutions. Using pirated software in meantime 😉

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Inb4 "FrEeCaD eXiStS"

Yes, Freecad exists. I may not be an expert, but I do this (drafting and design) for a living, and freecad is terrible. I can get more done in Solidworks, despite it crashing, than I can in freecad in the same amount of time.

[-] KingRandomGuy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Entirely fair! I think FreeCAD is still fine for hobbyists like myself though. It does take quite a bit of getting used to (I came from Fusion360 and Inventor first) since it operates somewhat differently, but it's good that we have at least one option.

Hopefully it'll see more development and become substantially more viable in the future.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thankfully I'm in a position where I can use SW for limited CAD tomfoolery, just so long as I'm not making models/drawings for another company or something.

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[-] StellarExtract@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

If you know how to program, build123d is a FOSS option that isn't FreeCAD! You can create objects directly from Python code, including fillets and chamfers! I've been playing around with it a lot and while there's definitely a learning curve, it's pretty powerful! There's a VS Code addon that allows you to visualize what you're working on and visually debug as well. I can do a lot of things I couldn't do in OpenSCAD (which is another easier code cad option).

[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

As someone who has working in CAD for 15 years I can tell you that most users don't want to program 3D models. All of the top CAD packages are graphical for a reason. We need to build something to be up to par and FreeCAD is also not it.

It sounds cool but the last thing I want to do when designing stuff is to program anything.

[-] Sphks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Ouch!
I like OpenSCAD. I was interested in your solution until I found an example. It's way too verbose for me. OpenSCAD has its flaws, but it's simple.

[-] StellarExtract@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

OpenSCAD is definitely easier, and I still like it too. I started learning build123d because I wanted fillets and splines, and because you can reference the properties of an existing object (like height) when making another object. Those have always been big drawbacks of openscad for me.

[-] roller@twit.social 6 points 1 year ago

@LazaroFilm glad I didn't bother learning this then...

[-] sillyhatsonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

I've moved away from free personal Fusion360 to OnShape and it suits my needs just fine. The free tier makes all my models public but I don't mind, and it runs much more smoothly in my browser than Fusion ever did on my desktop.

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[-] lal309@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Okay so Fusion360 money grab, FreeCAD bad alternative, what’s left (legitimate question)???

[-] yaaaaayPancakes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I dunno why you say FreeCAD is bad. When I got my 3d printer I picked it because I knew fusion would rug pull eventually, and fusion doesn't run on Linux without jumping through a bunch of hoops.

It takes a bit to learn, just like any app. But it's just as powerful. I really like the spreadsheet usage in FreeCAD to keep all my dimensions in one place.

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[-] algorithmae@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

There's a few permanent license alternatives that I've heard recently. I've been researching Plasticity and Alibre Atom3D

[-] Lordran_Hollow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's a pain in the ass to set up and navigate, but I use Solidworks for hobbyists. It's $99/yr and it gets the job done for me. Since I use Solidworks at work, it's nice to have the same software for home so I don't have to worry about learning to navigate another CAD software.

I tried FreeCAD as well, and it's what pushed me to try the Solidworks subscription.

It's so buggy that I really don't see myself ever paying for it.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Same here. It still doesn’t feel optimized. Sure it works after restarting it 3 times.

[-] Jtlkybncv@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago
[-] xenspidey@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I was using FreeCAD for a long time and while it was ok, it certainly isn't the greatest. I did just jump on this though. SolidWorks is so much nicer. https://www.solidworks.com/solution/3dexperience-solidworks-makers

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