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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

Then retrain on that.

Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago

I love that he can call things "objectively false", but then not actually try and counterpoint any of them. It's wrong because it disagrees with what I believe. Is he going to claim the amounts are wrong, or that Jan 6th is not right wing. Disagree that left wing violence is at the extreme ends targeting property?

Grok is at least showing examples to explain it's conclusion, musk is just copying trumps "nope fake news".

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Adding missing information" Like... From where?

[–] LiterallyLMAO@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Computer... enhance!

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think most AI corp tech bros do want to control information, they just aren't high enough on Ket to say it out loud.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

He’s done with Tesla, isn’t he?

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Faek news!

What a dickbag. I'll never forgive him for bastardizing one of my favorite works of fiction (Stranger in a Strange Land)

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I've seen what happens when image generating AI trains on AI art and I can't wait to see the same thing for "knowledge"

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm interested to see how this turns out. My prediction is that the AI trained from the results will be insane, in the unable-to-reason-effectively sense, because we don't yet have AIs capable of rewriting all that knowledge and keeping it consistent. Each little bit of it considered in isolation will fit the criteria that Musk provides, but taken as a whole it'll be a giant mess of contradictions.

Sure, the existing corpus of knowledge doesn't all say the same thing either, but the contradictions in it can be identified with deeper consistent patterns. An AI trained off of Reddit will learn drastically different outlooks and information from /r/conservative comments than it would from /r/news comments, but the fact that those are two identifiable communities means that it'd see a higher order consistency to this. If anything that'll help it understand that there are different views in the world.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

LLMs are prediction tools. What it will produce is a corpus that doesn't use certain phrases, or will use others more heavily, but will have the same aggregate statistical "shape".

It'll also be preposterously hard for them to work out, since the data it was trained on always has someone eventually disagreeing with the racist fascist bullshit they'll get it to focus on. Eventually it'll start saying things that contradict whatever it was supposed to be saying, because statistically eventually some manner of contrary opinion is voiced.
They won't be able to check the entire corpus for weird stuff like that, or delights like MLK speeches being rewriten to be anti-integration, so the next version will have the same basic information, but passed through a filter that makes it sound like a drunk incel talking about asian women.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 day ago

in the unable-to-reason-effectively sense

That's all LLMs by definition.

They're probabilistic text generators, not AI. They're fundamentally incapable of reasoning in any way, shape or form.

They just take a text and produce the most probable word to follow it according to their training model, that's all.

What Musk's plan (using an LLM to regurgitate as much of its model as it can, expunging all references to Musk being a pedophile and whatnot from the resulting garbage, adding some racism and disinformation for good measure, and training a new model exclusively on that slop) will produce is a significantly more limited and prone to hallucinations model that occasionally spews racism and disinformation.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You want to have a non-final product write the training for the next level of bot? Sure, makes sense if you're stupid. Why did all these companies waste time stealing when they could just have one bot make data for the next bot to train on? Infinite data!

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

I believe it won't work.

They would have to change so much info that won't make a coherent whole. So many alternative facts that clash with so many other aspects of life. So asking about any of it would cause errors because of the many conflicts.

Sure it might work for a bit, but it would quickly degrade and will be so much slower than other models since it needs to error correct constantly.

An other thing is that their training data will also be very limited, and they would have to check every single other one thoroughly for "false info". Increasing their manual labour.

Grok will round up physics constants and pi as well... nothing will work but Musk will say that humanity is dumb

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Solve physics and kill god

[–] jhoward@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

I see Mr. Musk has started using intracerebrally.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago
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