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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

Then retrain on that.

Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 302 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn't everyone just sick of his bullshit though?

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

US tax payers clearly aren't since they're subsidising his drug habit.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 59 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

If we had direct control over how our tax dollars were spent, things would be different pretty fast. Might not be better, but different.

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[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 256 points 1 month ago (1 children)

adding missing information and deleting errors

Which is to say, "I'm sick of Grok accurately portraying me as an evil dipshit, so I'm going to feed it a bunch of right-wing talking points and get rid of anything that hurts my feelings."

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is definitely how I read it.

History can’t just be ‘rewritten’ by A.I. and taken as truth. That’s fucking stupid.

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[–] maxfield@pf.z.org 163 points 1 month ago (13 children)

The plan to "rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge" with AI sounds impressive until you realize LLMs are just pattern-matching systems that remix existing text. They can't create genuinely new knowledge or identify "missing information" that wasn't already in their training data.

What he means is correct the model so all it models is racism and far-right nonsense.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 88 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Remember the "white genocide in South Africa" nonsense? That kind of rewriting of history.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 108 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"If we take this 0.84 accuracy model and train another 0.84 accuracy model on it that will make it a 1.68 accuracy model!"

~Fucking Dumbass

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] bufalo1973@europe.pub 100 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[My] translation: "I want to rewrite history to what I want".

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That was my first impression, but then it shifted into "I want my AI to be the shittiest of them all".

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 85 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

adding missing information

Did you mean: hallucinate on purpose?

Wasn't he going to lay off the ketamine for a while?

Edit: ... i hadnt seen the More Context and now i need a fucking beer or twnety fffffffffu-

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He means rewrite every narrative to his liking, like the benevolent god-sage he thinks he is.

[–] ahornsirup@feddit.org 23 points 1 month ago

Let's not beat around the bush here, he wants it to sprout fascist propaganda.

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[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 73 points 1 month ago (4 children)

He's been frustrated by the fact that he can't make Wikipedia 'tell the truth' for years. This will be his attempt to replace it.

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Elon Musk, like most pseudo intellectuals, has a very shallow understanding of things. Human knowledge is full of holes, and they cannot simply be resolved through logic, which Mush the dweeb imagines.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I elaborated below, but basically Musk has no idea WTF he’s talking about.

If I had his “f you” money, I’d at least try a diffusion or bitnet model (and open the weights for others to improve on), and probably 100 other papers I consider low hanging fruit, before this absolutely dumb boomer take.

He’s such an idiot know it all. It’s so painful whenever he ventures into a field you sorta know.

But he might just be shouting nonsense on Twitter while X employees actually do something different. Because if they take his orders verbatim they’re going to get crap models, even with all the stupid brute force they have.

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 56 points 1 month ago (23 children)

Whatever. The next generation will have to learn to trust whether the material is true or not by using sources like Wikipedia or books by well-regarded authors.

The other thing that he doesn't understand (and most "AI" advocates don't either) is that LLMs have nothing to do with facts or information. They're just probabilistic models that pick the next word(s) based on context. Anyone trying to address the facts and information produced by these models is completely missing the point.

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[–] TheDeadlySquid@lemm.ee 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Deleting Errors” should sound alarm bells in your head.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago

Dude is gonna spend Manhattan Project level money making another stupid fucking shitbot. Trained on regurgitated AI Slop.

Glorious.

[–] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 51 points 4 weeks ago

"and then on retrain on that"

Thats called model collapse.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So where will Musk find that missing information and how will he detect "errors"?

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[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 43 points 1 month ago

Because neural networks aren't known to suffer from model collapse when using their output as training data. /s

Most billionaires are mediocre sociopaths but Elon Musk takes it to the "Emperors New Clothes" levels of intellectual destitution.

[–] JustAPenguin@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The thing that annoys me most is that there have been studies done on LLMs where, when trained on subsets of output, it produces increasingly noisier output.

Sources (unordered):

Whatever nonsense Muskrat is spewing, it is factually incorrect. He won't be able to successfully retrain any model on generated content. At least, not an LLM if he wants a successful product. If anything, he will be producing a model that is heavily trained on censored datasets.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Training an AI model on AI output? Isn't that like the one big no-no?

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We have seen from his many other comments about this, that he just wants a propaganda bot that regurgitates all of the right wing talking points. So that will definitely be easier to achieve if he does it that way.

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[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I never would have thought it possible that a person could be so full of themselves to say something like that

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[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 33 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So they’re just going to fill it with Hitler’s world view, got it.

Typical and expected.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, this is the same guy who said we'd be living on Mars in 2025.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 33 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] releaseTheTomatoes@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Spoiler: He's gonna fix the "missing" information with MISinformation.

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[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 30 points 1 month ago

If we would talk like this, we’d end up in a padded room and drugged to kingdom come. And for good reason, I should say.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol turns out elon has no fucking idea about how llms work

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[–] Antaeus@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Elon should seriously see a medical professional.

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[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

How high on ketamine is he?

3.5 (maybe we should call it 4)

I think calling it 3.5 might already be too optimistic

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How does anyone consider him a "genius"? This guy is just so stupid.

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@midwest.social 25 points 4 weeks ago

I wonder how many papers he's read since ChatGPT released about how bad it is to train AI on AI output.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 23 points 1 month ago

That's a hell of way to say that he wants to rewrite history.

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Aren't you not supposed to train LLMs on LLM-generated content?

Also he should call it Grok 5; so powerful that it skips over 4. That would be very characteristic of him

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

There are, as I understand it, ways that you can train on AI generated material without inviting model collapse, but that's more to do with distilling the output of a model. What Musk is describing is absolutely wholesale confabulation being fed back into the next generation of their model, which would be very bad. It's also a total pipe dream. Getting an AI to rewrite something like the total training data set to your exact requirements, and verifying that it had done so satisfactorily would be an absolutely monumental undertaking. The compute time alone would be staggering and the human labour (to check the output) many times higher than that.

But the whiny little piss baby is mad that his own AI keeps fact checking him, and his engineers have already explained that coding it to lie doesn't really work because the training data tends to outweigh the initial prompt, so this is the best theory he can come up with for how he can "fix" his AI expressing reality's well known liberal bias.

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

which has advanced reasoning

No it doesn't.

[–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Yes please do that Elon, please poison grok with garbage until full model collapse.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Huh. I'm not sure if he's understood the alignment problem quite right.

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