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[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Edymos@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

God, this website is much sadder than Google's

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How so? I find Mozilla more willing to keep a project longer than Google. Not that that's not a very low bar, out that you can't criticise Mozilla for it.

[–] Edymos@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yes, they are keeping projects alive for longer, but a lot of stuff that's on there is really important. I mean they were really aiming for the stars with Firefox OS. To me it's more that Mozilla is either bad at managing projects, or it's just that hard to compete with proprietary software. Either way it's disappointing to see. Seeing the scope of each project shrink over time isn't helping either.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

For what it's worth, being a professional software engineer, I expected that list to be at least a magnitude longer. I guess, it doesn't include all their internal projects. But yeah, you would not believe how much shit we throw at the wall and how little of it sticks, particularly not for more than a few years.

I once heard the figure that IT investors expect 1 out of 20 investments to pay out, which feels about right to me...

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 0 points 4 days ago

I see your point. I think they're incompetent at both marketing and user retention. And the fact that so much of their payroll goes to inept C-suite executives didn't help either.

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why? That was one of the few non-Firefox things Mozilla was doing that didn't seem like an abusive money-grab.

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They need to focus on making Firefox better instead of wasting resources on a dozen side projects.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Where do they get funding for that

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They could go the Wikipedia route.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not sure donations alone would cover it all in a sustainable way. Would be nice though

I think an easy "donate" button on Firefox that just easily took users to the donation page would be nice and easy. It's why I donate to wiki during their fund runs: it's right there, reminding me, and easy to do. Now, if they make it obnoxious, it'd just push donations away. It's a fine line.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Makes sense to me, since the technology landscape has drastically changed since the project inception. You'd probably need to start developing from scratch anyways, if you wanted to bring that up to modern standards...