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With black Friday sales coming up, I'm hoping to start building a NAS for my home. I have the server and stuff, but wondering which drives to get for storage.

From everything I've looked at, seems like Seagate Ironwolf and WD Red seem to be highly recommended. I'm leaning towards the Ironwolf 8TB drives right now. These are retailing for $160+tax right now, which I feel is a pretty good price to get these

However, I'm wondering if any of you experienced folks have any other suggestions for me.

Thanks!

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[-] HearthCore@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Working Network Accessible Storage is done by a Virtualized TrueNAS Instance on my ProxMox Host with all Services attached to it through internal networking arrangements or direct access through MountPoints in LXC

The TrueNAS currently has 4TB SSD Storage

Then there's the backup NAS with 12TB HDD Storage for slow Media Storage and Backup of working NAS files.

My Media Streaming is attached to the 12TB NAS while Nextcloud is attached to both, for example.

[-] HieroglyphicEmojis@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Sweet! I was wondering the same thing recently! I have two WD Reds that I bought pre-Covid, but the NAS (2 bay net gear) was an end-of-life super cheap discount and I want a way to keep them running….like, can I wipe net gear and reformat the whole thing? Something I keep meaning to tinker with - but the weekend (for example) I’m likely bed ridden. My body is getting destroyed at my day iob -meh.

[-] oxide-NL@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Been using Toshiba enterprise disks, specifically the 'cloud scale' product lines such as Toshiba MG09

Decent priced, good quality.

None of them have failed me yet.

[-] galacticbackhoe@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I've had great experiences with HGST, WD, and Seagate. It's less about the brand, and more about the "production run" and models. Backblaze always has an interesting blog yearly about HD failure stats:

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q2-2023/

[-] sintheticgaming@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I use whatever is cheapest at the time of buying. I just make sure they’re not SMR.

[-] silvarium@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If you're gonna build for redundancy, avoid WD Red. They use SMR platters and it doesn't play nice with RAID configs. You'd have to get a WD red plus or red pro to get a CMR drive which actually works in a RAID array. You don't have to worry about accidentally getting an SMR drive with ironwolf though since that whole section is Seagate's branding only uses CMR.

[-] TynamicFX@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[-] Merlin80@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

1x3Tb WD Red atm its been on for 6.5 years accordning to the smart tool.

[-] fahim-sabir@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Still running a pair of HGST DeskStar NAS 7200 drives.

They’ve been solid. It’s a shame you can’t get them anymore.

[-] Lancaster1983@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

8x 4TB WD Reds and the 26x Dell 1TB drives that came with my Google Search Appliance.

[-] KookyWait@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I've got 3 WD reds with 91,500 hours on them each - that's over 10 years.

A good reminder I should update my backups this weekend.

[-] s717737@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

wd ultrastar helium

[-] Psychological_Try559@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Mostly it depends on the size of your pool and the type.

My TL;DR is that enterprise drives are likely overkill and aren't worth the extra cost (yes I can construct a cornercase where they prevent data loss but you'd need it to happen on multiple disks simultaneously, if you're that worried spend the money on extra backup!). Anything marked RAID or NAS is fine. Don't put anything designed to save energy into a NAS (eg: WD greens).

[-] cdrobey@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

You are looking in the wrong place if you pay more for enterprise drives. I used to shuck drives, but you can find enteprise drives for less $/TB and not deal with the possible loss of warranty.

https://diskprices.com/

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[-] xgnarf@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I'm shocked there's not more people here shucking external drives. https://shucks.top/

[-] Geeotine@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

+1 for Seagate Exos. Same or better than ironwolf and sometimes cheaper. 20TB for $280 is pretty darn good from newegg for data density.

[-] cillam@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[-] webbkorey@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I've got 10 12tb Seagate EXOS drives in operation right now and have also run small capacity (2-4tb) WD Red and blue and Seagate Barracuda drives. For ssds I run Samsung 870 evos.

[-] JoaGamo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Whatever is CMR and good enough. WD red, Ironwolf, etc

I've got a lot of random hdds, highest capacity are 4TBs ones, all in ceph nodes

[-] idl3mind@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I’m using four 8TB IronWolf Pro drives in the Intel-based QNAP used for Plex and general fileshares.

I’m using four 14TB IronWolf Pro drives (with two Samsung 2TB NVMe SSDs for cache) in the dedicated iSCSI ARM-based QNAP.

They’ve been great drives.

[-] -SPOF@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Remember that any storage media can fail at any time, for any reason, with or without notice. You can consider Seagate IronWolf Series, WD Red Series or Toshiba N300.

[-] ClayfordG@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Exos, red pro, or any similarly classes drive. Stay away from Toshiba NAS rated drives. Had 3/7 outright fail and two other had indicators of imminent failure all with ~9tb combined writes. Toshiba refused to replace the ones that were imminent. Thankfully we sent nightlies to Azure.

Edit: replaced them all with Exos drives and 1 year later, zero issues.

[-] Geek_Verve@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Redundancy and accessibility were my driving factors. I rip all my DVDs and Blu-Rays to my movie library and share them out to friends and family.

I've been using an array of WD Red 4TB drives for a few years, now. No complaints.

[-] brankko@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

WR Red Plus for me, it's a medium size NAS that runs in my bedroom, so they are quite quiet and easy to cool down with a low RPM quiet fan. Decent performance too.

[-] FunnyAntennaKid@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I run 4x WD Gold Datacenter Drives 8TB each WD8004FRYZ

And 2 2TB generic desktop hdds.

[-] fofosfederation@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Serverpartdeals has manufacturer referbs of Exos 16-20TB for 200. 8TB is just too small these days, I would not start there.

[-] kidmock@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

In 2013, I bought 12 4TB HGST. I just got my first drive failure last month and I'm going through the process of replacing them all with Seagate Exos X16 16TB just because I got a good deal.

I, typically, just buy whatever has the best price/performance ratio.

[-] spoulson@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I bought a bunch of factory recertified WD 16TB drives for way less than new from serverpartdeals.com.

[-] majorchamp@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Is shucking still a thing. That is what I did about 3 years ago

[-] knox902@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The spinny kind. Until they stop go go spinny and then I get new bigger and sometimes better spinny drives.

I have such a smorgasbord of drives. Bunch of 2.5" firecudas 1-2tb, old 1tb drives, thrift store external, shucked 8tb baracudas, new bare disk 8tb barracuda, 4tb HGST NAS, 8tb Ironwolf and more I'm sure.

FWIW, the Ironwolf is really nice and I wish all my drives were them. File transfer speeds are respectable for spinning rust.

[-] tifached@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I'm in Europe and seeing your us prices just makes me cry :(

[-] gramathy@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

Currently using WD red plus drives, once I get some financial freedom to expand probably going to switch to ultra stars or seagates unless I can get a good deal on red pros

[-] natharas82@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I've got some 4Tb SAS drives and a 6tb Seagate ironwolf, need to fill out the 6tb pool but new drives aren't cheap here at the moment. 6tb ironwolfs are $250-300 where I am and not sure I want to risk data with old SAS drives from eBay etc.

[-] Outrageous_Plant_526@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Get the largest NAS certified drives you can afford.

[-] postnick@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

4x 1tb critical mx500 drive. In a 2x2 setup so only 2tb of space in 4 drives. That with asnapshot copy to a 2tb nvme.

Really I’m only using like 500 gigs on my nas.

[-] Adept175@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

11 x 14TB Seagate EXOS drives in a RAID6 with 2 hot spares. Bought from multiple sites over several years.

[-] WindowsUser1234@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I use a 250GB Samsung SDD and an external 1TB WD drive.

[-] PlatformPuzzled7471@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Second vote for serverpartdeals.com. I got a great deal on some recertified 16TB WD Ultrastar drives - 164.99 each at the time.

[-] dadarkgtprince@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Got 2 NASes (on site/off site). One has WD Red, the other has Seagate Ironwolf. I want to upgrade them to EXOS drives, but they're running well.

[-] chriberg@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Yep, WD Red CMR. I've been running with them exclusively and never had any issues.

A typical drive in my setup: 8 years continuous operation, 0 bad sectors. Rock solid:

https://i.imgur.com/YTTN4uq.png

[-] cedrickm5787@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I have one pool with 3 6TB WD Red Drives and 1 with 3 6TB WD Black drives.

[-] Shty_Dev@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

WD blue drives I believe, got them a couple years ago on sale... Some were from enclosures etc

[-] BibleReaderMK@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

WD RED for me. My synology ds213+ has been solid with the same drives for last 8 years and still does the job

[-] 18zips@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I have 2 1tb ssd’s for all my vm’s and stuff.

And then I’m using a single 8TB barracuda for movies and media. It’s surprisingly more space than you think, and I’m just in the habit of deleting stuff after I’m done with it.

Went with the barracuda cuz I didn’t plan on using raid and figured it’d be quieter than the ironwolf.

[-] good4y0u@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I have 4x 10 TB WD reds white label I shucked from WD nas boxes.

I also just picked up 2x 20 TB Seagate EXOS drives new for $200 ish on eBay sold by Newegg because I need to very rapidly find a solution for my 18TB unlimited Google drive that is going away in December.

[-] inbashkir@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I have a synology 1219+ with western digital ironwolf drives in them. They’ve been totally reliable

[-] definitlyitsbutter@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I use several Toshiba MG07/08 in 14 TB. Datacenter drives, CMR, Helium filled, not noisy, 5 year warranty, fast, often relatively cheap.

[-] ItsMeBrandon_G@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I bought 20+ Recertified Class Western Digital WDC H530 14tb's for 126.99$ each from serverpartsdeals.com over the last six months. Comes with a 2 year warranty, which is about what you would expect a drive to have anyways.

I also have a dozen Ironwolf 12tb's (no pro) which have 3yr warranty, but still, if I had new about the recertified drives then I would've been all over those.

Really its about how much space do you need, how many SATA slots can you fill, and your use for them.

[-] Windows-Helper@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Many 1,2TB HGST 2,5" 10k RPM SAS drives For backup some WDs out of external cases

[-] R0gu3tr4d3r@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Synology DS414 with 4 x WD 6tb Reds.switched it all on on 2016. No issues since.

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