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[–] newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago (12 children)

This is why the Democratic Party sucks so bad. The never offered people something to vote for. They didn't even offer something harmless - they only ever offered to drive off a cliff more slowly. When in power, they never did anything against the DHS, the MIC, ICE, the Patriot Act. They didn't even talk about fighting landlords, the bosses, the rich. The Dems even refused police reform, instead increasing budgets. The only thing the party elites ever fought fiercely is Bernie Sanders and the progressive caucus.

The Democratic Party is just as much to blame for Trump as the GOP. Stop blaming progressives for this miserable one party state - start holding your politicians accountable.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

"I voted for the cliff because I know the ice cream place is down below it and I wanted to get there faster." - Have to assume this person exists, but I'm not sure who they would be in the analogy. 🤔

Edit: Oh, I just had to scroll down a few more comments to find them.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (10 children)

But if we vote for the non-vegan ice cream place, we're telling the leadership that we're okay with non-vegan options and no progress will ever be made!

/s for the illiterate

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[–] KingCake_Baby@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What everyone forgets is that the actual voting already happened. The bus company, Cliff driving Committee, voted before the bus embarked. They voted for the bus driver to drive off the cliff to cut spending to maintenance and health insurance to the driver and bus. There only so much the riders can say at that point

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The only option the riders have to not drive off the cliff is to take control of the bus.

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[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trying to reach the "I don't do politics" crowd with "harm reduction" doesn't really work as a strategy.

Like, they're already admitting that when something is an unappealing and controversial, they'd rather check out than engage. Going on to explain the gritty strategy for approaching unappealing and controversial politics is just adding more reasons onto the "I don't do politics" pile.

It's a crass comparison, but it would be like if someone said "I don't play MOBAs" and the response was to immediately launch into an explanation of League's current meta-strategy. Don't be surprised when they immediately check out of the conversation. (Yes I know games are frivolous and politics is life and death -- but the people who "don't do politics" don't see it that way)

More than that, nearly all of the "I don't do politics" people are almost certainly never going to see this image. We're in an online forum dedicated to talking about politics. The only people who see this are the people who already choose to spend their personal time on the subject. So ask yourself, is this image really about the people who are checked out of politics? Because, practically (regardless of intent) all this really seems to be is a thought-terminating cliche to throw at anyone who points out that running a "We're the lesser evil candidate!" doesn't actually engage or activate anyone who's already checked out!

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[–] trillnsfw@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 week ago

im sure the illogical thinkers will start thinking logically any day now

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

20 people voted to drive over the cliff. 30 people voted to fucking gun it and send that shit straight into the abyss. 1 person voted for ice cream but the cliff voters beat him to death. 50 people didn’t vote

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The problem with this is that the choice isn't cliff or ice cream. The choice is the cliff in front of us or the cliff around the corner.

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The "drive off the cliff" party vs the "drive off the cliff, but ever so slightly slower and also we'll wave some rainbow flags I guess" party. I know who I'm voting for!

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Also, I'm installing a bigger motor so you have a reason not to vote for the other party, because they'd get to go even faster

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Not necessary in actual democracies where you have 10+ different parties.

There, abstaining is just an other party. One with a powerful voice telling the politicians that if enough people not vote, it is a big sign that something is wrong with the system and things will need to change to prevent riots.

It is not the same as voting blank, which is also possible. Then your vote gets added to the most popular vote. In a way of saying that you are content with any.

[–] f314@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Exactly! Having “ice cream” and “death” as the only options doesn’t exactly foster a great discourse..

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's BS. Removing yourself just removes yourself, nothing more. 70% of the population not voting just means 16% get to decide - there's no redo.

After all, you not voting because you didn't like the options is indistinguishable from you not voting because you didn't care.

In order to protest you need to participate in the process. Even invalidating your ballot is a stronger sign than not voting.

I live in Switzerland where low voter turnout is common, yet the population prides itself for its direct democracy. This discussion comes up every election cycle and it's always the same. Nothing happens because of low turnout and nobody thinks twice about why.

Here, voting blank is the same as not voting, btw. It's the way to correctly Not Care in cantons that mandate voting.

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[–] lime@feddit.nu 9 points 1 week ago

here it's reversed. blank votes are counted separately, meaning that you want to participate but no option is good. abstaining means you don't care.

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