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Fuck cars and guns, ban both.
this post was submitted on 07 Jul 2025
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Genuine question: do the lines diverge (and in which direction / how much) if you account for the number of cars / guns per person?
I want to see it broken down into the fatal and non-fatal portions and also the mental health of the cars at the time of the crash.
I want to know how many people got shot while driving and then had a fatal car accident
Oh is today your cake day? You have a slice next to your name.
What is a cake day?
I think it’s the “birthday” of when you signed up for your Lemmy account.
Oh my birthday isn’t for a couple more years.
I think the better stat would be time handling a gun/driving a car.
The average person probably spends about an hour in the car per day (based on some loose numbers I saw online). But I suspect the number of hours holding a gun is a lot less.
Its kinda like the fact that new Yorkers bite more people than sharks. It isn't because new Yorkers are more likely to bite you, but with eight million people interacting daily the amount of interactions outweighs the odds of a bite.
I think the math works out that each year the average American has roughly 1 in 10,000 chance of dying in a car crash and a 1 in 200 chance of being injured in a car crash (Though the second stat likely leaves out a lot of unreported injuries). The average American rolls those dice once a year, so plan to live til 75? 1 in 133 chance that you die in a car crash, >1 in 3 chance you're injured in a car crash at some point.
I've known two people who died in car crashes, and at least several dozen who were injured in crashes including several really gnarly pedestrian bystander injuries. And I'm barely middle aged.
this is not a valid comparison. the number of people in and around cars--and the amount of interactions that the average person has with a car--vastly outstrips those near or using guns. by at least two orders of magnitude, one would estimate.
it's like saying that the number of papercuts received is marginally higher than the number of intentional stab wounds and the media only focuses on one.
that's how it should be. one of those two things impacts a larger percentage of the people that encounter it.
That doesn't make the comparison invalid, it can just be misleading to those with poor data literacy. Knowing how many "preventable" deaths from each source is valuable, but only if people are planning to do something about it.
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