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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Except we're witnessing the entire establishment media publishing the same claims as they did before except they have already been fully debunked by the UN. So now they are posting provably false information.

A 'journalist' who published the new one literally debunked the claims.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I'm not in any way pushing back on that.

But this is also an rw antisemitic trope, to the extent it has its own wikipedia article, and has since 2003.

Search Zionist control of media and you'll find an endless series of righting fascist, white nationalist, and straight up Nazi promotion of the idea (although they use Zionist and Jewish interchangeably, when I recognize that you geneva_convenience, do understand the difference).

Its a painful kind of wrap-around bending of reality that has happened, and I don't disagree with the reality. I'm just pointing out its irony.

The meme is of the format "Is this something it isnt?", which is intended to highlight the irony that now the left is having to make the same claims rw's have made for decades, but now that its real, the rw actually supports the Zionist control of media, and maybe even represents the primary force of Zionism internationally through Christian Zionism.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You are conflating Zionism and Antisemitism.

It's great that you know how to cite conspiracies from Wikipedia. Now please explain why all the mainstream western news outlets are uncritically citing debunked Israeli propaganda. Including the authors who debunked the propaganda.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not a "trope" if it's true.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Its literally listed in the "antisemitic tropes" section of wikipedia.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I literally told you that I agree with your point.

AND how you are approaching this is walking into a trap. Its a bait.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

I dont understand what the trap is. Is nobody allowed to point out these clearly coordinated Israeli propaganda blitzes?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'm begging people to stop treating Wikipedia as Holy Scripture

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago

the irony here is that you're doing a trope, israel is specifically using the fact that jews have and continue to suffer to hide their own heinous actions, you're doing precisely what a genocidal state wants you to do.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is Zei still up Glenn Greenwald’s ass? I still remember them (several years ago at this point) blocking every trans person who even pointed out to them that he’s a bigot, no matter how gently.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay, I don’t have links and I’m not going to dig through that shithole to try to find them 🤷‍♂️ At one point they explicitly thank Glenn Greenwald (try searching by @ and not name) for helping to get their account restored when they got suspended. That was when trans people started pointing out GG is a fuckhead and started getting blocked.

It wouldn’t surprise me if they’ve tried to erase all evidence of it since his turn to the right, but my ass stays mad about people being chummy with bigots.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Zei Squirrel is blasting Greenwald as an anti-woke billionaire simp in 2020 I'm not sure what else you would want.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If a single critical post is proof they hate GG, why isn’t a post thanking him and blocking a ton of trans people evidence to the contrary?

As for what else I would want, what I and all the blocked trans people pretty explicitly wanted was just an acknowledgement that he was transphobic. But that’s too big an ask apparently.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You got a post about the Squirrel explicitly attacking Glenn for his anti woke GOP farming. I didn't even put in effort I just searched Glenn Greenwald on their profile. Can you source what claim you're even talking about?

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I already told you I’m not digging around in that waste dump and told you how to find it on your own (search for Greenwald’s @, not his name). Assuming it hasn’t been shame deleted.

If you’re going to refuse to believe this thing I watched happen in real time and have talked about with multiple people actually happened unless I find you the links myself, then there’s nothing else to say here. I didn’t hang out in leftist spaces and argue with libs on the fediverse for 2+ years to lead up to a secret anti-Zei campaign, they just piss me off every time I see them because of their shitty past behavior to trans people.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

I have never seen the squirrel post about trans people except if it was used for pink-washing or in Glenn's case the opposite, anti-woke simping for billioniares. Unless you can provide me with some incredibly damning quote it feels like you're just grasping at straws here.