DeGoogle Yourself

I do not like either, as you get locked into their app ecosystem. No standard imap and no self-hosted archive is no freedom for me.

I went with puelymail.com, one of lesser known cheap standard mail providers, and am very content for a couple years already.

Bought my own domain, then bought a webhotel I trust, and set my up my own system. Works really well.

mailbox.org simple bring your own encryption

I went for Tuta and never regretted it. First as a free user, later I decided to subscribe to the old premium plan, where I pay 12$/year, mainly because I wanted to use a custom domain.

I also made a free Proton Mail about a year ago as a secondary mail account but I rarely use it. They are just way too pushy when trying to sell me their premium plans.

Have an acount on both and use them to verify each other.

I have a Proton mail account. While I'm ready to scold them for stop posting on Mastodon while still posting you know where!!... I think the stupid tweet that Andy Yen posted got way too out of hand. It was one tweet. You should find the tweet and read it yourself. It's just a dig at the "Left" in the vein of "wait, since when is a Republican defending small tech from Big Tech more than the Left?" It was tone deaf, and dumb and calls caution to the fact that this may be another dumb tech Bro who likes to tweet irresponsibly just as much as the idiots we know too well. But it wasn't any form of endorsement at all. Just a tone deaf attempt to create social pressure for the supposed "Left" to do what it is supposed to do. And oh boy, did the tone deaf tweet backfire.

But anyway, I belive, like many people here do, that one shouldn't put all of one's efforts to just one bet. That is how we got Google in the first place. You should also have a Tuta Mail as well, especially if you seem inclined to and don't have an alternative mail to Proton. I'm always ready to jump at any time that I find something that displeases me. And that includes Proton.

There's also personal preferences at play. What works really well for one person, might not for another.

We should try to spread our choice amongst all the villagers. Do not replace your entire Google suite for the Proton one. That's how we get another powerful conglomerate.

If you want one that has a calendar and supports inviting other people to events and accepting other people's invitations - there's really only Proton.

I tried mailbox.org, they use OX App Suite (Open-Xchange) on the backend which is full of holes with regards to calendar invites/reception support. I also tried Tuta which does not even bother to attempt trying to support accepting invites from other services (iCloud / exchange online / gmail).

+1 for Tuta. I have a free account with proton but I pay for premium Tuta. They have deeper ideological connections to the open source world and release many of their apps on F-Droid. Proton has only released their VPN app on F-Droid and seems to have no interest in any further activity there. Basically I think Tuta edges ahead in the morals and heart department, though they are a smaller company with less resources.

Proton is better. It supports PGP, the search function is nicer, and there was a third reason I can't quite seem to remember.

You could give Tuta a try if you like, though.

You should consider getting yourself a domain and linking it to your email. That way, you don't have to continuously switch email addresses. You can just switch service providers and point your domain at the new service provider and keep all of your same email addresses.

With that said, there's a good potential that Proton is going to be adding the ability to pay with Monero in the near future, and Tuta can be paid for with Monero using proxysto.re.

Personally i would go for Tuta, but try both!

Fastmail.

• https://www.fastmail.com/
• https://www.fastmail.com/blog/pgp-tools-with-fastmail/
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastmail

I've been asking the same question. I am trialing both and while I love Tuta, Proton seems more polished, I can set mail rules for tags, and seems smoother. Over all the suite for Proton is more robust, but Tuta's price is hard to beat.

Disroot. It support encryption with lacre and you can use your own PGP keys with all clients

Proton's CEO comments on Trump: https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

I use Proton and I'm happy with it. Tuta seems a great option but it's less complete if you need the full package.

I recommend to buy your own domain.

I use both, but honestly I feel that with a #tuta I have more privacy.