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[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have to / need to - At some point in my 20s it was pointed out to me that "need to" is the correct phrase and that "have to" isn't correct. But actually "have to" is used in both English and Spanish "tengo que" which is "have to" or technically "have that". Grammatically, if "have" is a state of being then "have to" is like a state of being with a direction or target implied.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

While I might use them interchangeably, as a non-native I would think "need to" is supposed to mean that the situation came out of necessity, such as feeling the need to pee or resorting to selling your car because of an empty wallet, while "have to" is more like the result of some rules or discipline, such as showing up to work in time - but I understand that the line between the two can be rather blurry.

As for my thing: there are a few shortened words in my language (similarly to the English "hubby", "preggo", etc.) that got shortened according to pronunciation, and not the original (longer) word, having a different spelling at the start (as if "circle" got shortened to "circ", but spelled as "cirk"). It feels like a kid came up with the spelling, and now it's the official form. It's bugging my inner spelling nazi every time I see it.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Relatedly, it really bugs me out when I'm watching English-language media from outside North America and someone says "what are we meant to do" in a situation where I would say "what are we supposed to do". Like, a lot. Best I can figure, it implies to me a sort of outside intention driving one's actions, as opposed to the mere regard implied by "supposed", and my anti-authoritarian ass rankles at that.

Anyone else have feelings about this one?

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Wow. Do you know the feeling when someone brings your attention to something that you had been ignoring pretty much all your life, and from that point it drives you mad every single time? Yeah, you have just done that with the meant to/supposed to thing. You're SO totally right! Aaaand you cursed me.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

someone corrected me on spelling "at least" "atleast"
like... alright? (wink wink nudge nudge)

anyways I was in a bad mood and wrote a passive aggressive message I ended up not sending

Words condense over time, it's not a crime to not type a space.

do you say "goodbye" or "God be with ye"? what about "gossip" or "farewell"?

What about a purpose misspelling being turned to one of the most common words in conversation? "all correct" -> "oll korect" -> "ok"

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

By some standards, the Oxford comma is still incorrect grammar. I'll die on the hill that it has utility, and I'm glad it's becoming more of a commonly accepted convention.

[–] InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Alright, which standards? Show your work or else I’m a call you a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

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[–] absolutejank@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

outside of like academic settings, anything should go. check out the previous sentence where i inserted an unnecessary “like” as an example. it reflects my train of thought and i type as i think. same thing should go for slang and stuff, if the best way to get your point across is with ideas that have not been accepted by the academic world then that’s totally skibidi tubular, man.

[–] wolfeh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Using "they" as singular. Also, referring to animals besides humans as "he," "she," or "they" instead of "it."

I usually am a grammar nazi, but these are things I do very intentionally.

[–] jjmoldy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Most of it. I don't know how people find the energy to give a shit about grammar in informal settings. If I can understand the meaning it's good enough for me.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m fine with “free reign” and “beckon call” because the meaning is retained and language evolves.

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[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nobody actually knows how to use "it begs the question" anyway. Even the ones who think they do.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The one thing I will insist on is the use of is/are. It's pretty simple, if referring to a countable set, use "are". E.g. there are four turtles in my sewer. You would not say "there are too much shit on this webpage", because that shit is uncountable.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Some things work differently between dialects of English. For example "the band is" (it is) vs "the band are" (they are).

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've recently come to the position that really, there isn't truly such a thing as incorrect grammar. There's grammar that doesn't fit the norm for the people one is speaking to, and if it's different enough to impair the ability for the intended audience to understand what you're communicating it can be impractical or inadvisable, but since grammar isn't an intrinsic part of the universe outside of human creation, and since the way it's used changes whenever people "break it's rules" in numbers over time, it can't actually be wrong. After all, someone could view something written in a very closely related foreign dialect as another similar language written correctly, or one's own language written incorrectly, and there isn't really a non-arbitrary way to decide which is the case.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is just practically and technically wrong. You're lightyears off.

Of course there are incorrect grammars. They wouldn't be called grammar. While the tolerance for these errs is greater than the textbook, if you stray too far then the meaning you're trying to convey would be lost.

No, grammar isn't some kind of made up notion. Without grammars, it's just a bunch of words with no meaning.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Grammar is literally just some made up notion

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