Political Memes

Can there be another Whigs party

This is GOP propaganda

somebody said it nicely yesterday in a lemmy comment:

we need to capture the dems and turn them into a socialist party,
just like the fascists captured the reps and turned them into a nazi party

Okay, one still should vote for a Democrat president. Because why would you vote for a more hostile government? Unless of course you want everything go-to shit but you should lead with your intention.

Great way to logic. Let me try...

You cannot reform the United States of America because at it's core it is a capitalist and imperialist country that will always put corporate interests over human interests.

Oh shit, now the whole project is hopeless. Let me try again.

You cannot reform humanity because at it's core it is selfish and self-serving.

I guess we are all fucked. Or maybe we grow the fuck up and deal with the reality of what's in front of us and the work involved in making things better. If we can't reform the Democrats, then we have no chance in hell of shepherding a new party from nothing to national powerhouse without losing it to the same corrupting forces that hold the Democrats. Never-mind the realities of what it would take to take over the country with a third party in a first past the post system.

So let me guess. The solution is to vote for a 3rd party that has absolutely no presence in our federal government at all, hoping that magically one of their reps can become president and save the country, despite having absolutely no support within the federal government, at all? And we'll just all agree to pretend like they won't become susceptible to corporate interests as well so they can actually accrue enough money to start winning elections.

Ok, so enough of that stupid bullshit. Let's hop on back to reality.

In reality, we have to vote Democrat for the time being because WE JUST FOUND OUT WHAT FUCKING HAPPENS IF WE DON'T. Meanwhile, we hope that a 3rd party can get off its fucking ass and start winning local/state elections so they can start getting MORE THAN ZERO representatives in the House and Senate, so that someday they can actually have a real shot at running a candidate for president.

This meme is grade school level dogshit. It only serves to split the vote more on 3rd party candidates that can't win and ensure Republican control of our government for even longer. We don't live in fantasy land. 3rd parties can't recite magical incantations and gain control of our federal government. There's a really fucking long process for a road to the presidency for a 3rd party, and in the meantime, we fucking vote Democrat because HAVE WE FUCKING LEARNED NOTHING?

I think it can be ship of theseus'd, just replace all the key people in the party and keep the name.

FDR was a democrat, if it could go from that to what it is now, it can be turned back into a socialist party.

What the fuck are you talking about I've heard it a million fucking times already. Its all anti-Harris lefties talk about.

Having fun with the fascism we've got instead? Thanks for that BTW. Real good. Really makes me motivated to fight for my rights when my follow lefties keep empowering fascists through inaction in the most simplistic and basic fucking democratic function of going to a polling place and voting once every 4 years for the lib that'll beat the fascist.

I really wanna go fight ICE in hand to hand combat and get shot in the fucking face knowing this probably could have been prevented.

Also if you are going to complain that I'm not bagging on the centrist/liberal dems for losing because they refused to budge left: I fucking hate them too, you can both suck shit directly out of my asshole.

Roosevelt did great things for Americans while still being capitalist. The needle can be moved left without violent revolution.

"Both sides bad" is weak sauce.

We just witnessed an internal party takeover in the Republican party. What dumbass thinks the same couldn't possibly happen in the Democratic party?