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[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 6 days ago (19 children)

You can do what the tea party did: capture a small enough portion of your voting base that covers the margin of victory (aka: the short hairs) and demand the party do your bidding.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 6 days ago

If they cared about victory, you'd be right. But it's becoming pretty clear they care far more about money. If they're paid to lose anyway, this tactic is utterly useless.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 13 points 5 days ago (3 children)

They've drifted so far right that I call them Republicrats, and y'all should too.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean the Republicans have been dragging the Overton window right for decades. They just happily went along with them.

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well the other option is reforming the Republican Party. That seems harder.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (12 children)

It may not be worth the effort to reform it, but claiming that it "can't" be reformed is asinine. A political party is not some higher order being, timeless and unchanging, nor even one with a fundamental permanent set of core tenants that all else springs from. It's a group of people with a bit of bureaucracy that influence and decide somewhat collectively on their shared goals. Of course that can change fundamentally.

In fact it has changed fundamentally in the not too distant past. Look at the Democratic party (and the Republican party) of the Jim Crow era compared to today. They essentially flipped to the other side of the political spectrum. It's absolutely not easy to change a party fundamentally and not quick to do so, either. Old minds are not easily swayed with the times. The primary way to change party ideals is through new minds and perspectives joining the party and the old ones leaving it. Generational change is slow AF but it does definitely happen. Concerted effort for young people with new ideals to join the party is the best way to induce this change. Again though, that is a lot of effort and takes times. The bigger he ship, the harder to steer. There are alternatives, all of which also take a ton of effort, probably a lot more effort really, but might be faster if it works out.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 5 days ago

also like to point out that many of them are DINOs, and are republicans that wouldnt be electable otherwise in a GOP primary, so they have to put a democratic facade to just get elected.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

"We'd rather have a convicted felon pedophile be president because the Democrats don't want to dismantle capitalism entirely and replace with... well we don't know what with".

  • Absolute fucking dumbasses.
[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Strawman? Like 3 separate strawman arguments?

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, people generally want their politicians to help them.

And wealth inequality is the single biggest issue in human society.

We are at a point where if we want to help regular people, we need that to come at the expense of the rich.

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Corporate interests are human interests. They are the interests of the few. Its class. The class of the wealthy - the class of the few. Its always class we need to break down. Nothing maters more.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Can there be another Whigs party

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You also cannot replace it with a third party. So I guess we’re just fucked?

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's almost like the original assertion is bullshit!

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