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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I think X11 is ideal at the state it is currently. Only getting real fixes, that don't break anything. If you are a kind of user who needs X11, you probably don't need any features Wayland offers anyway.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I started linux with wayland and i have no clue why it's such a controversy lmao.

[–] Samueru_sama@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

I started linux with wayland and i have no clue why it’s such a controversy lmao.

I recently ran into an user that rarely used x11. We were testing lsfg-vk, and right now it has a bug that when you close the game it most of the time it hangs and doesn't quick properly.

The person complained about having to open the terminal to kill the app when it hangs and I had to explain that this is not an issue for me because I use xkill which they never knew was a thing that avoided that whole mess of having to open a terminal to kill a window.

But anyways, not a big deal if you can no longer use xkill, it is a very handy tool that saves a lot of key presses but not a vital thing in the end.

The big issue holding me on x11 is that there is no way to merge multiple displays as one, something that on x11 is a very simple xrandr --setmonitor is impossible on wayland, there is no way to do it.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

For me the only issue is that I don't want to rewrite all my Awesome widgets. KDE has really nice widgets but it still doesn't have independent virtual desktop per monitor so for me it's completely incompatible with my workflow. Looks like waybar is most popular but I'm not going to write widgets in C++. AGS looks like it would do what I need but I'm not sure if anyone is actually using it. I could try it but I have 0 issues with Awesome WM so what would be the point of spending months moving everything to Wayland? I will probably do it one day but it simply doesn't offer me anything right now.

[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Well in 120 years, all existing X11 users will be dead and then this stupid argument will finally stop including X11

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago

X11 users love to cling to broken / abandoned apps.

If your app doesn't work on Wayland it's just bad or abandoned at this point.

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