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[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 1 points 54 minutes ago

I'm not a huge fan of his, but I don't entirely disagree.

If someone genuinely wants to pass universal healthcare, tax the rich, or has a great plan to drive down the cost of living... I'm significantly less concerned with the specifics of their ideology than I am with their policy goals.

People generally vote around kitchen table issues.

Unfortunately for Pete and the DNC, everyone currently in office has demonstrated that they will actively oppose any policy that would help the working class. They've burned through all their good will.

If I see one more DNC hack yammering about how city run grocery stores wont work, I'm going to loose my grip. Maybe they will, maybe they wont. But people would rather the government fail trying to help common citizens than succeed at fucking us over.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I love that "it's not about the idiology" except it totally is. It may not be about the name, but the idiology is trying to do something to help poor/working class people, instead if the wealthy. Meanwhile the alternative neoliberal ideology is about talking about the poor/working class struggling and doing nothing to help them because it'd come at the cost of the wealthy.

He's not doing well because he's called a socialist. He's doing well because he is a socialist and that prioritizes the people, not businesses.

[–] _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"If people are wondering why this guy is popular, It's because he does this outrageous thing called listening to what the people want"

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most of the crats listen. What this guy is doing is responding favorably to what he is hearing.

[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

Danger detected

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 days ago

Democrats are the perfect illustration of "it's very difficult to make a man understand something, when his job depends on him not understanding it."

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All y'all miss the point?! Mamdani's proposals are focused on what New York City voters told him they want. How can Democrats anywhere get game like his? Get their happy asses on the street and talk to everyone.

Mamdani interviewed Trump supporters and listened to them. He's fascinating to watch, a politician that listens closely and responds to exactly what he heard, doesn't spout a list of talking points.

All he's saying is that Mamdani's ideas may not be applicable to all Democratic constituents, but the listening part is the secret sauce.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Mamdani’s proposals are focused on what New York City voters told him they want.

I'd go a step further. He's championed some very popular local policies, but he's also trailblazing into territory that progressives still just have on the drawing board. The trick is that the progressive policies hinge on the municipal leadership providing real, tangible amenities to city residents.

Mamdani interviewed Trump supporters and listened to them.

Did Mamdani do well on Staten Island? Seems like that was Cuomo's turf. Seems like he was much more tuned in with Brooklyn, Uptown Manhattan, and the Bronx. One reason why Richie Torres has completely flip-flopped on Mamdani is tied to how well Mamdani did in Torres's district. Also why Jefferies is running scared.

But rent freezes and cheap groceries and free buses aren't terribly popular with the landlords and the car owners way out in the 'burbs. His failure to jerk off the NYPD is probably his biggest vulnerability, outside pissing off AIPAC by running as a non-self-hating Arab. That's where all of Adams's and Cuomo's supporters still live.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

At the same time, the people hate the NYPD, those dirty fuckers. If you want the popular vote, you need to tell the pigs to go to hell, especially in New York where they're some of the worst human beings around.

[–] BMW_stick@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Too bad Pete slammed Bernie in the 2020 debates, following the script given to him by the DNC. If he had actually supported Bernie, we wouldn't be in this fascist mess.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think people misunderstand. Pete is saying that Democrats should pretend to care about people while not actually doing so.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"You need both a public and a private position” -Hillary Clinton

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

democrats are desperate to believe and for other people to believe that it's not about his policies. oh it's because TikTok. it's because he seems genuine and talks to people. it's because people support Hamas or whatever...

no matter why it is, it's definitely not because socialism is attractive to voters. don't tell us we have to actually care about the fucking poors now. don't tell us AIPAC money is poison now.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 79 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Push shit people care about? Idk you think that strategy would really work? I should probably ask the consultants about it first.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (63 children)

Bro we're serious this time. We just need to work on messaging while not actually offering voters anything.

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[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The lesson I learned is fight for ranked choice voting.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

This is the way.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

This is bullshit. What people want is someone is willing gut the DNC of the old guard. They need people who care, but also someone whose willing to create a political program where the voters needs come before the donors and politicians. Everyone knows that the Republicans before 2016 and the the Dems of the last 50 years only saw the voters as an inconvience to what they each thought they were entitled to.

a still from Ronnie Chieng's recent Netflix special

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

No you fucking dipshit we want the government to actually do things to improve our fucking lives and nobody but socialists seems to understand that anymore

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mamdani’s is not part of the club and they will try their best to block him like Bernie.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 days ago

Yes, I totally agree. Release the Epstein files.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 days ago (11 children)

So, in other words...his advice is to adopt the language, but not the policies.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No i also care about the policies.

Idk if I'm the minority but there shouldn't be a "middle ground" between making money off owing homes and people's ability to live in one.

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[–] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wow Pete, that is some high grade denial and or delusion you got there.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ideology is such a scary word, what people want is platitudes

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago

Oh Pete, you're so cute, but no one believes you because you're totally full of shit.

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