About time, really happy my government is pivoting. Better late than even later.
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Ban all israelis
Yeah I am amazed how isralies are permitted anywhere before the genocide... Their behavior makes Russians and Chinese seems like the decent people
Have those 2 ministers ever been to Nederland?
I belive it may be Shengen ban?
Edit: I only found one source (not in English) saying it would apply to the entire Shengen zone and it refers to information given by NOS TV station.
I cannot verify if it is true.
I belive it may be Shengen ban?
That would be better, and that is what the Dutch government would rather have but they don't have that power. These two people have become persona non grata, which means they aren't allowed to enter the country and will be thrown out if they (try to) enter the country.
Source: I'm dutch and can follow the Dutch news in Dutch language, including the NOS.
Source: I'm dutch and can follow the Dutch news in Dutch language, including the NOS.
Thank you, although I just found a new source referring to Shengen:
Dutch Foreign Minister Caspar Veldkamp announced that both ministers will be designated as “undesirable aliens in the Schengen system,” effectively prohibiting their entry into the Netherlands.
Is it mistranslation?
It seems to me they not careful enough in translating or interpreting the letter they refer to. The letter in Dutch (as it is send between bodies of government) states the following:
Het kabinet heeft daarom besloten de Israëlische ministers Smotrich en Ben-Gvir tot persona non grata te verklaren en heeft de inzet om hen te registreren als ongewenste vreemdelingen in het Schengenregistratiesysteem SIS.
The first part is what I got from the news, they banned these two ministers from the country. The second part says they want make that Schengen-wide. But, as I expected, this cannot be decided by a single country. Below is a machine translation by Deepl which I guess is what Politico should have used instead:
The cabinet has therefore decided to declare Israeli ministers Smotrich and Ben-Gvir persona non grata and is committed to registering them as undesirable aliens in the Schengen registration system SIS.