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The Substack app sent a push notification promoting a Nazi newsletter to several users. (programming.dev)
submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Pro@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Screenshot of the blog called NatSocToday

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 239 points 1 month ago (21 children)

It's almost like Substack has a Nazi problem and has for years.

Stop pretending substack isn't a Nazi platform, because they actively support Nazi propaganda on their site and have refused to take it down or commit to keeping it off their platform.

Substack is run by Nazi supporters at the very least, which should be enough for people to flee in droves, but more people are ok with Nazis than we want to admit.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yes, this has come up repeatedly over the years.

The problem is that it is really the only viable platform for independent articles/blogs these days. That is already a ridiculously small potential audience (people who can read AND people who are willing to pay for content). Cutting out the one platform that got any traction is as good as quitting.

It is similar to why businesses (which is what we are talking about) couldn't leave twitter until like a year and a half ago or whenever bluesky went open sign ups. Yeah, it is a platform owned by nazis and infested with them but... it is also the only way to advertise said businesses and have any hope of surviving. That said, once bluesky gained traction there is absolutely zero reason to not, at the very least, diversify (preferably dropping musknet entirely).

For Substack? Ghost is an increasingly viable platform. But just look around here for any time someone posts a link to a 404 media article and you get "Ugh. Fucking scammers want to rugpull and steal all my personal information" for... wanting ANY email to be used for a free account to just limit the impact of bot/ai scraping.

Its less that "more people are ok with Nazis than we want to admit"... especially considering many of the people on substack are talking about said fucking Nazis. The problem is that "fewer people are willing to support independent media than we want to admit". It is the same logic of "if I like a youtube channel I'll give them money on their patreon" that is patently flawed.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But just look around here for any time someone posts a link to a 404 media article and you get "Ugh. Fucking scammers want to rugpull and steal all my personal information" for... wanting ANY email to be used for a free account to just limit the impact of bot/ai scraping.

I don't want to create a fucking account on every single fucking website I enter to read a shit article about some random bullshit

That's just making the internet even shittier place than it already is. Telling your readers to eat a hatful because scrapers are not respecting robots.txt? Please step on lego

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

404 media doesn't make you create an account, they just send you a link to your email, but having to create a throwaway email every time so they can't track what I read is a hassle I just don't care enough for. I'll either skip the article or use a proxy.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So true, but I think Patreon will be the place to submit my articles. I deleted my Substack over this. You can make your post free and offer paid teirs what I do.

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 54 points 1 month ago (3 children)

NEW - Solar geoengineering researchers conspired to hide tests to dim the Sun to "avoid scaring" the public.

aha.

Anyway, nice to see the famous Substack network effects in full swing.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

researchers conspired to hide tests to dim the Sun to "avoid scaring" the public.

Because if there's one thing you can hide, it's dimming the one thing that brings heat and light to the planet.

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Ignoring conspiracy theory stuff, people aren't very good at perceiving changes in light levels if they happen gradually. During any solar eclipse there are wide bands where only a partial eclipse is observed. It's pretty common for people in those bands to not notice that something has changed even with 50% occlusion.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're right when talking about the average person with nothing but their eyes. But there are tons of companies and members of the public that have bits of tech that would call that out easily. Solar panels, environmental logging equipment, etc, would notice the drop in light levels fairly easily, and would be apparent when reviewing historical vs current levels, and the power grids would definitely notice the sun dimming dropping their power outputs.

Without going into conspiracy theory territory, there's no realistic way to hide that from the public.

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Definitely, any changes natural or anthropogenic would be measured and to great accuracy. I just wanted to point out that the notion of the general public, especially if conditioned to distrust scientists and authorities, not noticing changes isn't the outlandish part. See global warming denial despite years of record setting temperatures.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I just wanted to point out that the notion of the general public, especially if conditioned to distrust scientists and authorities, not noticing changes isn't the outlandish part.

I figured, which is why I framed my comment the way I did. You may be able to discount the scientists, but can you discount them, plus citizens complaining about their solar output, power plants having to raise rates due to falling solar generation, crop impacts, and even just other citizens posting raw data all coming out with similar data over time saying it's a problem?

Having said that and looking at the state of climate change, I have a hard time not seeing the parallels against my argument. But falling solar output would have a much more immediate effect on us than climate change (and would likely reverse it to some extent).

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I'd chalk that up to the assumption that a cloud has partially or fully obscured the sun. If clouds weren't a thing, we'd be much more sensitive to light changes as they wouldn't be a part of our outdoor experience.

I'm not checking to see if the sun is still there every time the ambient light outside dims, y'know what I mean?

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You'd think that of all people, white supremacists would applaud anything that prevents their skin from getting darker.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago

Beware of increasingly white supremacists.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

You'd think that, but I've had the command "get a tan for God's sake you're transparent" used as an insult against me. You can be too white for white supremacists.

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[–] Agrajag@scribe.disroot.org 52 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You gotta be a real sicko to have the substack app installed and on top of that have their push notifications enabled

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[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I really really hate that they call themselves a socialist party... like the KKK calling themselves Racial Unity.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Teeeeeeeeeeechnically, the term is correct, the Nazi regime did offer socialist benefits... Only for those they considered "nationals", hence NatSoc.

Socialism alone does not guarantee democracy nor freedom of speech, it is strictly a financial system where the means of production are owned by society. The prefix "national" then defines who that society is.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

And yet it is used as the bogeyman anytime someone mentions the dirty word "socialism" in the US. Despite the fact that Socialism at this point would have to be better better than the crony capitalism we have now.

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[–] custard_swollower@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some countries have pretty strict laws about not promoting Nazi ideology - by pushing that notifications it would probably be breaking that law.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Oh yeah. Circulating random swastika-labelled push notifications talking about a sickness that "aflicks (?) all Jews" is a pretty big no-no in most, if not all, of the civilized world.

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[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can we talk about "afflicks" Choosing to spell like a 4 year old when spell check is pervasively available...

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[–] peregrin5@piefed.social 26 points 1 month ago

i feel like I've never heard anything about substack and then all of a sudden out of nowhere i was hearing about it everywhere. never used it. now that I know it has a nazi/far-right problem, staying away from it by at least 1000 miles

[–] r4venw@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"aflicks" -facepalm-

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh Substack what are you doing

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago

Nazi shit, again

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

I get permitting these blogs as part of a commitment to avoid censorship - someone with non-mainstream but far less extreme opinions can look at them and say "If Substack doesn't censor even these guys, it definitely won't censor me." With that said, I'm still surprised that Substack apparently doesn't manually curate its push notifications.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

aflicks...

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Trying to go the Elon Musk approach. Ballsy.

[–] Coldgoron@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I looked for months for negatives to substack before starting my publications there. This is all news to me. Looking at the alternatives costing the creators a fee for zero subscribers leaves me with no choice but to stay for the moment being also. Hopefully a real contender pops up soon.

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