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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 52 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

And then what?

Let's say everyone in the world except the US recognizes the Palestinian state. Would that change literally anything at all?

Meanwhile, Canada continues to send weapons to Israel.

[–] Regna@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

For the children dying of starvation and bombs right now? Not much of a difference.

For recognition that their suffering is unjust? Huge difference.

If anyone is sarcastic about Canada, France or any other nations about this issue and criticizing them about the lack of support , I sure hope as fuck that you put your money and your votes where your mouth is wherever you are located.

Ffs, Palestinians, including farmers, inventors, and just general lovely folk have not had anywhere to turn for ages. Now there will be a generation of serious nourishment deprivation, where said they survive they will likely be diminished and devalued because of Israel imposing starvation and trauma upon them.

Any support now is critical, and empty words of support are unfortunately more than the sheer genocide of both bodies and minds that is happening now.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Empty words of support work to demobilize the masses. Canadians see this and think things are going to be okay.

People need to understand that their government is still killing Palestinians.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

I 100% agree with you. We can say "yay good job government" bit then we need to keep our eyes on them, our voices loud, and make sure those words are followed by actions.

Keep making noise for Gaza, this fight is not over. I wont forget the government's complicity in all of this, but they can still make the better choice now.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 18 points 19 hours ago

technically we don't officially send weapons but the loopholes are so large that it's not true at all

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 16 hours ago

Just in time for checks watch a decade or two (if not three) after any hope of a viable two state solution has been thoroughly proven impossible by the actions of the West's favorite fascist apartheid regime.

If you think that being an officially recognized country would protect Palestinians from being oppressed and massacred by Israel, I have some oceanfront condominiums in the Golan Heights to sell you.

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I love that everyone's recognizing it the second that 99% of the people there are going to die of starvation because its already at the point that its irreversible

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Preemptive land acknowledgement.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 30 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] xzot746@sh.itjust.works 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah should have been done a long time ago, but Canada had to wait to see what everyone else is doing first.

Shame on all governments and world leaders for allowing and in some cases assisting in this tragedy.

[–] WhyIAughta@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

All these leaders wouldn’t be doing this, if 1) it already wasn’t too late, and 2) they weren’t permitted (or recommended) to do so. No country is led by free men.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And they will plan it even stronger if Israel doesn’t start to genocide slower.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I know, by itself it's insufficient, it is a step in the right direction though, albeit a small one

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I was gonna ask what took them so long…but then I wondered what the catch was.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

yea, disarming Hamas is just gonna take away what little armed resistance Palestinians had

in other words, canada is using an overdue noble gesture (Palestinian recognition) as a way to help israel further its genocide. it’s sickening

settlers of a feather flocking together

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not only disarming hamas but also a future palestinian state. Every country has a right to have an army to defend itself

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I'm starting to think every sovereign nation should acquire nukes including Palestine.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

In addition to recognizing Palestine, all countries should drop recognition of Israel and recognise the presence of Israelis in Palestine as being illegitimate.

The Israelis will cry about anti-semitism, but I think more and more people in the world recognize this trick and are not going to buy it.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Good idea. There are many countries that don't recognise the settler colony and even some that have unrecognised it, like Iran.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Nice to know that it only takes billions of dollars worth of tariffs for the country of Canada to act ..... or 50,000 dead people that didn't have to die, as well as tens of thousands more that are near starving to death.

[–] SpicyCasual@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago
[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It won't happen , hamas with not drop arms

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 13 points 18 hours ago

Finally someone read the article.

Canada said its recognition is "predicated on the Palestinian Authority's commitment to much-needed reforms, including the commitments by Palestinian Authority President [Mahmoud] Abbas to fundamentally reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026 in which Hamas can play no part, and to demilitarize the Palestinian state."

Hamas must also immediately release all hostages taken in the Oct. 7, 2023, terror attacks on Israel, disarm and "play no role in the future governance of Palestine," Carney reiterated.

lol. Yeah,the chances of all that happening? Nil. I do think would likely be a move in the right direction, but it will not happen. This is basically an attempt to blame-shift.

[–] WiseScorpio@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Considering Britain and France helped oversee the Mandate of Palestine, this seems like this circumstance should have already been a thing

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

They didn't give a shit about the natives then and they don't give a shit about them now, but images of skeletal children on social media are lowering the tone and making it harder to gaslight the sheep with Zionist propaganda.