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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

short note that presstv.ir is an iranian-run newspaper, so let's better wait for confirmation from the UN or somebody less biased in this affair. still very interesting news though, and definitely imaginable.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 9 points 1 day ago

We already have confirmation on most of the steps needed to reach this logical conclusion.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 87 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

You mean that a government with one of the most well funded intelligence services in the world, knew that an attack was coming from a region they completely control, from a manufactured rebel group they partly fund. And they let this attack happen, and their citizens die and used it as a casus belli to raze, and ethnically cleanse said region because they want to completely colonize and claim it as their own?

That's definitely a first in the history of humanity and I'm utterly shocked, really!

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

not to forget Netanyahu's government was in a pretty bad place and urgently needed some common enemy to save the day from

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Also they let the attack continue for 6 hours before showing up with forces despite being a 1 hour drive from their capital city and probably even closer to military bases. With a population that all serves in the military in their youth and many that proudly walk around armed, how did it take so long to organize a counter?

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

They needed to have lunch and then a serious meeting to figure out what to do. You can't make this kind of decision on an empty stomach!

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah, something tells me EDM festivals aren't full of Likud voters, maybe leadership thought of it as 2 birds one stone

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And they let this attack happen, and their citizens die and used it as a casus belli to raze, and ethnically cleanse said region...

You left out the Hannibal directive part, but yeah.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 3 points 1 day ago

I didn't know about it, that's interesting, to say the least

[–] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, this is pretty much what we’re saying.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago
[–] Thalion@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've taken this for granted since the beginning... It seems incredibly suspect that such a powerful intelligence apparatus could not have known about such a wide spread attack.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah i remember listening to a podcast about it.

No hard, direct evidence but overwhelming circumstantial

[–] daydrinkingchickadee@lemmy.ml 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It seems incredibly suspect that such a powerful intelligence apparatus could not have known about such a wide spread attack.

Egypt warned them months ahead.

[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

US intelligence confirmed within a week that Egypt had warned them repeatedly, and again a few days before the attack. So even if they missed it themselves(which is highly unlikely), they at a very minimum ignored the warnings.

And when the PM quickly called that "fake news", it should have been a pretty strong indication for most people.

[–] npdean@lemmy.today 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I will go one step further. Most wars are started with a false flag operation.

This is my conspiracy theory with no evidence- 9/11, this thing, Pearl Harbor were all inside jobs. It is not that far fetched to think that governments would kill their own people to justify a war because they kill their soldiers anyways.

[–] scintilla@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you explain the Pearl harbor one? Just that the fleet was mostly out for training?

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 2 points 1 day ago

Just that they had prior knowledge of the Japanese plans and deliberately let it happen. It's a much weaker theory than this one and 9/11

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago

Gulf of Tonkin, “Saddam has WMD’s” 😱

[–] Archelon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Blame the Maine on Spain?

Pearl Harbor, 9/11... for anyone outside of America/the West these people work in very predictable ways. It works too, so why not?